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  Relativist fallacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
The relativist fallacy, also known as the subjectivist fallacy, is a logical fallacy committed, roughly speaking, when one person claims that something may be true for one person but not true for someone else.
On this formulation, the very name "relativist fallacy" begs the question against anyone who earnestly (however mistakenly or not) holds that there are no "objective facts." So some more work has to be done, in a non-question-begging way, to make it clear wherein, exactly, the fallacy lies.
The accusation of having committed a fallacy might rest on either of two grounds: (1) the relativism on which the bogus defense rests is so simple and meritless that it straightforwardly contradicts the Law of Non-Contradiction; or (2) the defense (and thus the fallacy itself) is an example of ad hoc reasoning (which see).
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 Relativist fallacy: Definition and Links by Encyclopedian.com - All about Relativist fallacy   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
The relativist fallacy, also known as the subjectivist fallacy, is committed, roughly speaking, when one person claims that something may be true for one person but not true for someone else.
There are at least two ways to interpret "the relativist fallacy": either as identical to relativism (generally), or as the ad hoc adoption of a relativist stance purely to defend a controversial position.
On the one hand, those discussions of the relativist fallacy which make the fallacy out to be identical to relativism (e.g., linguistic relativism[?] or cultural relativism) are themselves committing a commonly-identified fallacy of informal logic, namely, begging the question against an earnest, intelligent, logically-competent relativist.
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 Logical fallacy - Wikipedia
A fallacy is a way that an argument can go wrong and thereby fail to be valid, sound, or otherwise fail to properly support its claim.
In the opposite direction is the fallacy of argument from authority.
Typically, logical fallacies are invalid, but they can often be written or rewritten so that they follow a valid argument form; and in that case, the challenge is to discover the false premise, which makes the argument unsound.
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 Logical fallacy - Open Encyclopedia   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
A logical fallacy is an error in logical argument which is independent of the truth of the premises.
Recognizing fallacies in practical arguments may be difficult since arguments are often structured using rhetorical patterns that obscure the logical connections between assertions.
Fallacies are used frequently by pundits in the media and politics.
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 Logical fallacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A logical fallacy may mean nothing more than a fallacy or it may mean an error in deductive reasoning, i.e., a formal fallacy.
In the latter case, it is a flaw in the structure of a deductive argument as opposed to an error in the premises.
Recognizing fallacies in everyday arguments may be difficult since arguments are often imbedded in rhetorical patterns that obscure the logical connections between statements.
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 Relativist fallacy   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
The relativist fallacy, also known as the subjectivist fallacy, is a logical fallacy committed, roughly speaking, when one person claims thatsomething may be true for one person but not true for someone else.
There are at least two ways to interpret "the relativist fallacy": either as identical to relativism (generally), or as the ad hoc adoption of a relativiststance purely to defend a controversial position.
The accusation of having committed a fallacy might rest on either of two grounds: (1) the relativism on which the bogusdefense rests is so simple and meritless that it straightforwardly contradicts the Law of Non-Contradiction ; or (2) the defense (and thus the fallacy itself) is an example of ad hoc reasoning (whichsee).
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 Knowledge King - Logical fallacy   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
A logical fallacy is an error of argument; it is a mistake in the way that the propositions (in the argument) are inter-related.
This structural mistake is not the same as the truth or falsity of the statements being made; the conclusion may be true, but it is said to be invalid because it doesn't follow from the arguments (premises) presented.
By definition, logical fallacies are invalid, but they can often be written or rewritten so that they follow a valid argument form; and in that case, the challenge is to discover the false premise, which makes the argument unsound.
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 Fallacy of many questions -- Facts, Info, and Encyclopedia article   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
This fallacy is often used rhetorically so that the question limits direct replies to something that serves the questioner's agenda.
Note that the fallacy is all in context: the fact that a question presupposes something does not in itself make the question fallacious.
A similar fallacy is (Click link for more info and facts about begging the question) begging the question.
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 The Destruction of Sacred Space
The principles of relativist space have defined both the form of the contemporary universe and the modernist style of architecture, which has been adopted by the Church.
Relativist space is empty of meaning because it’s up to the observer to give significance to what he or she sees.
The concept of a place set apart, a holy place, is alien to the relativist spirit that is embodied in the architectural style of the age.
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 Talk:Logical fallacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Beginning with Aristotle, fallacies have generally been placed in one of three catagories: a material fallacy (misstatement of facts), a verbal fallacy (improper use of words), or a logical fallacy (also called a formal fallacy—a mistake in the process of inference).
The fallacy is used by Person B to invalidate Person A's criticism of (or more general comment about) something by pointing out that Person A is not an expert or experienced veteran in the subject and therefore is supposedly not qualified to comment on the subject at all.
The first fallacy is indeed that it's a weighted question (or may be, depending on the context; if the guy's already admitted to beating his wife in the past in the conversation, it's not!) and suggests that there's some reason to think the person being questioned beats his wife even without providing evidence for it.
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 Relativist fallacy -- Facts, Info, and Encyclopedia article   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
The relativist fallacy, also known as the subjectivist fallacy, is a (A fallacy in logical argumentation) logical fallacy committed, roughly speaking, when one person claims that something may be true for one person but not true for someone else.
The fallacy is supposed to rest on the (Click link for more info and facts about law of non-contradiction) law of non-contradiction.
If one tries to translate "That may be true for you, but it is not true for me," into (Click link for more info and facts about E-Prime) E-Prime (meaning English without the verb 'to be') one can choose from a number of possible translations.
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 Logical fallacy: Definition and Links by Encyclopedian.com - All about Logical fallacy   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
A fallacy is a way that a logical argument can go wrong and thereby fail to be valid or sound, or otherwise fail to properly support its claim.
For example, the argumentum ad hominem, or personal attack, is used when instead of refuting an statement, the person who made that statement is attacked.
Sometimes, however, an appeal to an authority is best construed not as a fallacy but as an appeal to expert testimony[?]—a type of inductive argument.
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 Informal Fallacies
The fallacies in this section have in common the practice of appealing to emotions or other psychological factors.
These fallacies occur because the author mistakenly assumes that the whole is nothing more than the sum of its parts.
The fallacies in this section are all cases where a word or phrase is used unclearly.
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 Challenges to the Church - Relativism
We might see this fallacy in action if I were to say to Aileen, "baseball is a fun sport and you are stupid if you don't enjoy it." I have taken a subjective belief or opinion and attempted to make it objective or normative.
The third umpire is a relativist who believes that in an objective sense a pitch is neither a strike or a ball.
Relativists are only too happy to accept humanitarian awards, but with no objective standard of right or wrong, moral commendation has no place.
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 Relativism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Relativists claim that humans understand and evaluate beliefs and behaviors only in terms of, for example, their historical and cultural context.
Philosophers identify many different kinds of relativism depending upon what allegedly depends on something and what something depends on.
The descriptive relativist reply to this is that while this might be true at a general level, different cultures have different understandings of what "innocent" means, and so are still culturally relative.
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 Logical fallacy at opensource encyclopedia   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
A logical fallacy is an error in logical argument or reasoning which is independent of the truth of the premises.
However, the interlocutor may be believe some acts of killing are not wrong, for instance those carried out in self defense or in legitimate warfare; from the point of view the interlocutor James commits the logical fallacy of begging the question.
Some fallacies are used frequently by pundits in the media and politics.
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 Relativist fallacy : Subjectivist fallacy   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
If Joe answers Jim, saying "That may be true for you, but it isn't true for me," he has given an answer which is fallacious as well as being somewhat meaningless in the context of Jim's original statement.
Conversely, take the new statement by Jim, who is 5'6" tall, "270 lbs is grossly overweight." Joe, who is a foot taller at 6'6", and weighs an exact, well-conditioned 270 lbs, replies, "That may be true for you, but it isn't true for me." In this context, Joe's reply is both meaningful and arguably accurate.
If one tries to translate "That may be true for you, but it isn't true for me," into E-Prime (meaning English without the verb 'to be') one can choose from a number of possible translations.
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 Free Thinking & Christian Philosophy
A fallacy is, very generally, an error in reasoning.
To be more specific, a fallacy is an "argument" in which the premises given for the conclusion do not provide the needed degree of support.
A deductive fallacy is a deductive argument that is invalid (it is such that it could have all true premises and still have a false conclusion).
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 AR.net >> Discussion Forum >> RE: The Way of the Weasel   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
Description of Relativist Fallacy The Relativist Fallacy is committed when a person rejects a claim by asserting that the claim might be true for others but is not for him/her.
As long as truth is objective (that is, not relative to individuals), then the Relativist Fallacy is a fallacy.
The relativist insight that cowardice is morally neutral is one of its most attractive features.
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 Relativist fallacy   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
Some opponents of Marxianism identify Karl Marx as having committed and propagated the relativist fallacy.
Marx argued that different social classes have different logics and that the arguments refuting his theories were merely bourgeois logic that could be dismissed without needing to be refuted.
Marxianss would reply that it is a fallacy to define, without argument, their relativism--called polylogism--as a fallacy.
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 ESGS Logical Fallacies   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
Most fallacies can be avoided with some knowledge of science and epistemology that the practice of general semantics helps to convey.
The force of the fallacy lies in the impression created that some veiled claim is true, although no relevant evidence is presented to support such a view.
Fallacy Fallacy (ad logicam): arguing that a proposition is false because it has been presented as the conclusion of a fallacious argument.
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Appeal to Authority: In appeals to authority fallacies it might be argued that the
Fallacy Of Composition, Division, General Rule, or Exclusion: evidence is excluded
Genetic Fallacy: A Genetic Fallacy may be a fallacy of origins or virtue.
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 XENOPHILIA (the Band)
A reasonable person, therefore, is of sound mind: free from error, logical fallacy, or misapprehension, well-grounded, relevant and meaningful.
Your best defense against the dark art of fallacy is to cultivate a healthy skepticism.
A moderate opinion may be correct, but when used as a weapon, this fallacy says the middle of any two extremes must be true.
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 Daniel M. Hendricks :: Relativist Fallacy   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
The Relativist Fallacy is committed when a person rejects a claim by asserting that the claim might be true for others but is not for him/her.
If there are cases in which truth is actually relative, then such reasoning need not be fallacious.
After all, a fallacy hardly counts as an argument.
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 Number 2 Pencil: The logical fallacies of testing critics
This fallacy is committed when a person asserts that a claim is true because an expert or authority makes the claim and the person does not actually identify the expert.
A related form of this fallacy is to focus on some egregious error from "the other side" to prove the case for your side.
How about the fallacy that says that it is the number of arguments that you throw out that counts, not the validity of each argument.
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 Skeptic Terms   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
Explanation: This is a common logic fallacy in matters of faith.
Explanation: This is a commonly used fallacy when trying to argue in favor of religions.
Explanation: Generalizations are a dangerous stereotype to begin with, but this fallacy takes it even further by making the generalization before you even have a sampling of the majority of the test bed.
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 Error de Relativist   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
El error del relativist, también conocido como el error del subjectivist, es un error lógico confiado, en línea general, cuando una persona demanda que algo puede ser verdad para una persona pero no verdad para algún otro.
En esta formulación, el "error conocido mismo del relativist" pide la pregunta contra cualquier persona que serio (al menos equivocadamente o no) sostenga que no hay "hechos objetivos." Tan más trabajo tiene que ser hecho, de una manera de no-pregunta-peticio'n, de hacerle el claro en donde, exactamente, miente el error.
En la una mano, esas discusiones del error del relativist que hacen el error hacia fuera para ser idéntico al relativism (e.g., relativism lingüístico o relativism cultural) ellos mismos están confiando un error comu'n-identificado de la lógica informal, a saber, pidiendo la pregunta contra un relativist serio, inteligente, lo'gico-competente.
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 Challies Dot Com: Challenges to the Church - Relativism
Relativistic thinking is indeed very dangerous, but does it really poses much of a "threat to evangelicalism?" It is packaged in so much illogical thought.
Truth/Reality has already been revealed to ALL mankind (Rom 1), many choose to supress it, some to the point of actually believing their own denial as Truth - which in and of itself is opposite of relativism.
You've done this before, Tim, and I've called you on it before - emergents are not relativistic as you are presenting it ("truth is relative to a particular context and is not absolute.").
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 Fallacies in arguments   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-06)
Michael C. Labossiere, the author of a Macintosh tutorial named Fallacy Tutorial Pro 3.0, has kindly agreed to allow the text of his work to appear here on ramdac.org in electronic form.
If you have questions or comments about this work, please direct them either to me at ramdac@ramdac.org or to Dr. Labossiere (ontologist@aol.com).
In order to understand what a fallacy is, one must understand what an argument is. Very briefly, an argument consists of one or more premises and one conclusion.
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