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 The Hindu : A maritime Rigveda? — How not to read ancient texts
Further, the Rigvedic poetic diction concerning the samudra is exactly the same as that used for the rivers: swelling, spreading, growing (at snow melt in spring).
In sum, in the personal experience of the Rigvedic poets we can find only the confluence of the Panjab rivers, the mythical or "night time" ocean, but apparently not the Arabian Sea or the very distant Bay of Bengal.
Importantly, had the Rigvedic poets personally known the ocean and the long range maritime trade that Frawley desperately wants to discover, they should have mentioned, at least in passing, such typical features of the ocean as its salinity or its tides.
www.hinduonnet.com /thehindu/op/2002/06/25/stories/2002062500030200.htm

  
 Abstracts of Papers
Thus a proper identification and correct interpretation of the term Sapta-Sindhu ought to be "the Land of Seven Rivers", extending from the Sindhu (Indus) in the west to the Ganga in the east with the Sarasvati, the epicenter of the Rigvedic culture, in the middle.
There could be a difference of views as to the names of the other four rivers of the Sapta-Sindhu region and probably such was the case in ancient times as it certainly will be the case in modern scholarship.
Further, gratuitous statements as to the Sarasvati forming the eastern frontier of the Sapta-Sindhu Region are misleading because these avoid confronting the fact that the Sindhu of Sapta-Sindhu does not stand for the Indus river, rather denotes "river" in a generic sense.
www.hindunet.org /hindu_history/ancient/indus/abstracts.html

  
 Google Search: Colonial Historiography
Rigvedic water hymns like Rigveda 10.9 and mantras such as Rigveda 10.75.6 (already prescribed for utterance during ablutions in the Taittiriya Aranyaka) are used for ritual bathing in temple tanks and sacred rivers even today.
The Rigvedic sage Agastya, later at least associated with the south of India and the ocean, refers to the Vedic city or pur as “wide, broad and extensive (prthvii bahulaa na urvi, 1.189.2).
Witzel also reasons that the Rigvedic peoples could not have known real terrestial oceans because their oceans are mythical, being located above, below, at the two ends of the world and so on.
colonialhistoriography.blogspot.com /2004/01/witzels-vanishing-ocean-how-to-read.html

  
 Upstream: Upstream: Issues: Anthropology: Indus
Sarasvati is praised the most out of all the rivers which indicates that many of the Rigvedic hymns must have been composed at its banks.
Nevertheless, in view of its importance in the Rigvedic hymns as the symbol of speed and of the sun, the fact that no representations of the horse have been found in Harappan iconography remains a puzzle.
The geography of Rigvedic India presents several clues that are significant for chronology.
www.mugu.com /cgi-bin/Upstream/Issues/anthropology/indus.html

  
 The Geography of the Rigveda
A second, and slightly less logical, procedure, would be to automatically assume that the Rigvedic rivers originally bore all the three names, since the oldest recorded occurence of the three names is in the Rigveda.
JahnAvI is clearly the earlier Rigvedic form of the later word JAhnAvI: the former word is not found after the Rigveda, and the latter word is not found in the Rigveda.
Hence, the fact that the ritual use of Soma formed such an integral part of the Rigvedic religion in every period of the text (and that this feature is shared with the Iranians) proves that the Vedic Aryans entered India from the northwest, bringing the Soma plant and cult with them.
www.bharatvani.org /books/rig/ch4.htm

  
 Bathinda Ford
D uring the Rigvedic Aryan period, Bathinda seems to have been part of the Saptasindhu (seven waters) which came to be known as Panchanada (five rivers) in the Mahabharata time.
B efore the Rigvedic period, the region witnessed a massive inflow of invaders from the North-West in several successive waves between 1500 B.C. and 800 B.C. Perhaps for the first time, the region witnessed a series of fierce wars for several centuries.
I t is believed that Rao Bhatti established the modern town of Bathinda and Bhatner in the Lakhi jungle area in the third century and it was captured from him by the Barars.
www-vs.informatik.uni-ulm.de:81 /Mitarbeiter/Sidhu/Bathinda

  
 Rediff On The NeT: The Rediff Interview/ Dr Subhash Kak
Since this river is praised as the greatest river of the Rigvedic times, it is clear that the Rigveda predates 1900 BCE in the least.
Archaeological digs have confirmed that the Sarasvati river flowed down to the sea, parallel to the Sindh (Indus), before a major earthquake in about 1900 BCE robbed it of its two tributaries, the Satluj and the Yamuna, which were captured by the Sindh and the Ganga rivers.
If that were to be the case, the traditional chronology which dates the end of the Rigvedic period to about 3000 BCE is correct.
www.rediff.com /news/1999/nov/18inter.htm

  
 HIMAL SOUTH ASIAN October 2003 Review The contemporary politics of ancient history
The details of his arguments are more likely to provoke limited controversy on certain geographical points, such as the attempts consistently to identify vedic rivers with original courses (some now dried up or shifted) far to the north-west of the present-day counterparts that bear their names.
But such classifications are notoriously slippery when subjected to closer analysis: even within the Rigvedic corpus there are occasional Prakrit forms which suggest the artificial preservation of an older language within a community which was already using a new form of speech.
We are left to presume that vedic people (in fact, the author prefers ‘Rigvedic people’) are roughly equivalent to the society that produced the Rigvedic hymns.
www.himalmag.com /2003/october/review_2.htm

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