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	PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE & ROMAN SALUTE MYTHS & THE OATH OF THE HORATII & ROME FREE ACADEMY ... (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-30)
		The Roman salute myth was used (and still is used) to cover-up the fact that National Socialists in the USA inspired National Socialists in Germany (Nazis) in their salute and ideology.
		When the term "Roman salute" developed, the straight-arm salute was a decades-old ritual in government schools in the USA where the gesture was compelled with robotic chanting of the Pledge Of Allegiance.
		Roman culture featured an established sense of near blind-faith to the nation; the Romans have often been criticized for their appeal to heroics and their fundamental lack of understanding of feeling (35).
	www.rexcurry.net /pledgehoratii.html (3013 words)

	ooBdoo
		When the Nazi party of Germany adopted the Roman salute from the Italian fascists, President of the United States Franklin Roosevelt instituted the hand-over-the heart as the salute to be rendered by civilians during the Pledge of Allegiance and the national anthem in the United States.
		The classic "corps style" salute is often known as the "punch" type, where the saluting party will first punch their right arm straight forward from their body, arm parallel to the ground, hand in a fist...followed by the more traditional salute position with he right hand....left arm akimbo.
		Gun salute by aircraft, primarily displayed during funerals, began with simple flypasts during World War I and have evolved into the missing man formation, where either a formation of aircraft is conspicuously missing an element, or where a single plane abruptly leaves a formation.
	www.oobdoo.com /wikipedia/?title=Salute (3997 words)

	Roman salute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-30)
		The association of the gesture with Roman republican culture seems to have emerged in 18th century France with revolutionary and anti-monarchist movements of the era.
		It was with this function that the so-called Bellamy salute was adopted in the United States in 1892 as part of the Pledge of Allegiance.
		Because of the similarity between the Bellamy salute and the Nazi salute, President Franklin D. Roosevelt instituted the hand-over-the-heart gesture as the salute to be rendered by civilians during the Pledge of Allegiance and the national anthem in the United States, instead of the Bellamy salute.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Roman_salute (1235 words)

	Pledge Allegiance to the Truth in Greco-Roman Archaeology and Anarchaeology. Roman salute myths, Edward Bellamy, ...
		The so-called “Roman salute” (saluto romano) is as much of a fiction as is the so-called “Roman step” (passo romano) as is the idea that the National Socialist German Workers’ Party emulated Mussolini and not vice versa.
		Information is being sought on the historical archaeology of the Roman salute myth, the early salute/gesture of the Pledge of Allegiance in the United States, and the swastika's use as alphabetical symbolism.
		The salute of German Socialists has sometimes been labeled an "ancient Roman salute." Dr. Curry helped to establish that it was not an ancient Roman salute, and that the "ancient Roman salute" is a modern myth.
	rexcurry.net /archaeology-greco-roman.html (4647 words)

	PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE & HEIL HITLER HOOEY EXPOSED, NAZISM, SOCIALISM & NATIONAL SOCIALISTS EXPOSED IN THE USA ...
		Even if Hitler (or anyone else) misunderstood the salute to be an old Roman salute (and it is not clear that Hitler believed it to be an old Roman salute), that would not alter Hitler's (or anyone else's) knowledge that the salute was in widespread use in the USA (from 1892).
		It never had been the ordinary salute in the streets of Greece and Rome, where the free citizens shook hands or affectionately clasped each other's wrist, while no doubt the slave, meeting his master, saluted with the raised right arm, almost to show that his hand was disarmed and his obedience defenceless.
		Another modern influence for the "Roman salute" myth is "The Oath of the Horatii" a famous painting by Jacques-Louis David in 1784, that inaccurately depicts an event, and it is an event that might not have even happened.
	www.rexcurry.net /pledgesalute.html (6238 words)

	Flag-burning, the true patriotism \| Bureaucrash
		The initial military salute was held for the phrase “I pledge allegiance” and then the hand was extended outward toward the flag.
		The straight-arm salute with the palm down was not an “ancient Roman salute” and the “ancient Roman salute” is a myth.
		The descriptions of the foreign salutes is not only inaccurate, but Moss thus misses their source in the early Pledge of Allegiance, with the question never even crossing his mind.
	bureaucrash.com /blog/flag_burning_the_true_patriotism (3787 words)

	National Socialist German Workers' Party officially adopted the salute before Mussolini did (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-30)
		That salute went as follows: "We give our heads and our hearts to God and our country; one country, one language, one Flag." During the spiel, the youngsters would point at their heads, their heart and then at the flag.
		The straight-arm salute of the Nazis was adopted from the
		Notable other examples of the salute, by then a standard part of ancient iconography in the cinema, appear in Ben-Hur (1925) and in Cecil B. DeMille’s Sign of the Cross (1932) and Cleopatra (1934), although the execution of the gesture was still variable.
	www.gemworld.com /US-PledgeSaluteSocialism.htm (1005 words)

	Mailgate: soc.culture.african.american: Government schools imposed segregation, Nazi salute & taught (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-30)
		Curry (author of "Pledge of Allegiance Secrets") helped to establish that it was not an ancient Roman salute, and that the "ancient Roman salute" is a modern myth that grew during and after the lives of Edward Bellamy (1850-1898) and Francis Bellamy (1855-1931).
		The salute was not an ancient Roman salute, and the "ancient Roman salute" is a myth.
		The straight-arm salute in the USA pre-dated the NSGWP by 30 years and was created by Francis Bellamy (author of the "Pledge of Allegiance").
	mailgate.supereva.com /soc/soc.culture.african.american/msg1850491.html (1172 words)

	Winkler.doc
		Notable other examples of the salute, by now a standard part of ancient iconography in the cinema, appear in Ben-Hur (1925) and in Cecil B. DeMille’s Sign of the Cross (1932) and Cleopatra (1934), although the execution of the gesture is still variable.
		As is to be expected, the former regularly features the salute; the latter shows Hitler, German spectators and officials in Berlin’s Olympic stadium, and several victorious German and Italian athletes giving it.
		Anthony Mann’s The Fall of the Roman Empire (1964), the only epic film that attempts to do justice to the greatness of Rome, shows a triumphant Commodus greeting the Roman people with a variation on the raised-arm salute from which obvious Fascist overtones are gone.
	www.apaclassics.org /AnnualMeeting/03mtg/abstracts/Winkler.html (426 words)

	Debate challenge to Todd Gitlin re Pledge of Allegiance & National Socialism \| TPMCafe
		Gitlin seems unaware that the Bellamys were self-proclaimed National Socialists and they supported the "Nationalism" movement in the USA, the "Nationalist" magazine, the "Nationalist Educational Association," and their dogma of "military socialism" and an "industrial army," and Edward inspired the "Nationalist Party" (in the USA) and their dogma influenced socialists in Germany.
		The same symbolism is shown in the bizarre signature of Hitler, which Hitler altered to use the same stylized "S" letter for "socialist"; in the fact that the NSGWP's symbol was turned 45 degrees to the horizontal and oriented in the S direction; and in similar alphabetic symbolism that still shows on Volkswagens.
		The raised-arm salute was not an ancient Roman salute, and the "ancient Roman salute" is a myth.
	americaabroad.tpmcafe.com /node/28888 (1010 words)

	Baltimore Independent Media Center: Military salute in the USA became Nazi salute
		The military salute of the right hand to the forehead was used at the beginning of the original pledge of allegiance.
		The military salute was held for the phrase “I pledge allegiance” and then the right arm extended straight outward toward the flag for the rest of the chant.
		Bellamy wrote the pledge with the military salute because Bellamy was a self-proclaimed national socialist who promoted “military socialism” (a Bellamy term) and he wanted government schools to create an “industrial army” (another Bellamy term) in order to nationalize the entire economy.
	baltimore.indymedia.org /newswire/display/9237/index.php (538 words)

	Historians confirm new discovery: Nazi salute came from the USA ? : AZ IMC (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-30)
		Curry showed that the USA's first Pledge of Allegiance used a straight-arm salute and it was the origin of the salute of the monstrous National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis).
		Professor Curry helped to establish that it was not an ancient Roman salute, and that the "ancient Roman salute" is a myth.
		Historic photographs are at http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html and at http://rexcurry.net/pledge_military.html Due to the way that both gestures were used, the military salute led to the Nazi salute.
	arizona.indymedia.org /news/2006/01/34828.php (955 words)

	The 18-to-24 Bracket » Blog Archive » Bring Back the Roman Salute
		By “Roman Salute” I mean the unbent arm extended at a 45-degree angle, with the palm down.
		In the Roman Republic and Empire, at least as far as we can deduce from art, it was frequently used as a standard oratorical gesture and as a means of reciprocal acclamation between a general and his troops (see picture).
		We can and should do the same for the Roman Salute, both because we owe it to ourselves, to gain a valuable symbol for our patriotism, and because we owe it to the gesture, to redeem its history through our invincible powers of digestion.
	18to24bracket.com /?p=155 (1021 words)

	Illuminati News: History of the Nazi Salute
		The Nazi salute has been known as the "Roman" salute and attributed without support to ancient Rome, http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html.
		New evidence shows that the Roman salute and its name originated from Rome, NY via Francis Bellamy, author of the USA's pledge of allegiance, who grew up in Rome and is buried there.
		During that time children in government-schools were required by law to salute the flag with the straight-armed salute in military formation daily on the ring of a government bell, like Pavlov's lapdogs of the state.
	www.illuminati-news.com /nazi-salute-history.htm (992 words)

	pledge lawyer
		It is a myth that the salute is an old Roman salute.
		The original salute to the U.S. flag was the same as the salute of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
		An example of the salute is at http://www.rexcurry.net/pledge1.html (historic photographs of the original socialist salute being given to the U.S. flag are collected at that website, so please contact the website with information about any historic photographs of the Pledge).
	members.ij.net /rex/pledge-lawyer.html (1838 words)

	Movies.com: Marketplace
		On a final note, contrary to the previous reviewer E.R. Curry's claims, the Roman salute is anything but a fascist invention of the 20th century attributed to Ancient Rome.
		Jaques Louis David portrayed the Roman salute in his 1792 painting "The Oath of the Horatii" showing the legendary Roman Horatii brothers saluting their father with the Roman salute as they go to war.
		The Nazi or fascist salute is therefore a revivance of what was thought to be the original Roman salute as portrayed in David's painting and other classicist or neo-classicist works of art.
	movies.go.com /marketplace/details?asin=B000065VVG (912 words)

	Cronaca: Pledge of Allegiance: a Nazi plot?
		Well before Fascism, the [Roman] salute frequently occurs in films set in antiquity, such as the American Ben-Hur (1907) or the Italian Nerone (1908), although such films do not yet standardize it or make it exclusively Roman.
		Virtually the entire ritual of Fascist politics made familiar by Mussolini--the balcony address, the Roman salute, the dramatic dialogues with the crowd, the use of religious symbols in a new secular setting--was influenced by D'Annunzio at Fiume.
		The salute included an outstretched arm (the only place with secret photos of the original socialist salute to the U.S. flag is http://rexcurry.net).
	www.cronaca.com /archives/002224.html (1075 words)

	Italy \| Paolo Di Canio :: Soccerphile
		His status as the icon of the "Irriducibili" (Indomitables), Lazio's fiercest ultra group, reached new heights in early January, when he celebrated his team's win over Roma with a gesture reminiscent of the fascist salute (incidentally called "saluto a la romana", the Roman salute).
		Born in the modest, working-class Roman neighborhood of Quarticciolo, Di Canio displayed a difficult temperament right from the start.
		The one he again obscured with the Roman salute at the Stadio Olimpico.
	www.soccerphile.com /soccerphile/players/dicanio.html (743 words)

	OpinionEditorials.com — What Wikipedia doesn't want you to know......... - Curry
		The USA's first Pledge used a straight-arm salute and it was the origin of the salute of the monstrous National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis), as shown by Dr. Rex Curry.
		Due to the way that both gestures were used, the military salute led to the Nazi salute.
		It was also the historical civilian salute of the United States, from 1787?-1934?, known since 1892 as the Bellamy salute.
	www.opinioneditorials.com /guestcontributors/rcurry_20051205.html (1168 words)

	SitNews - Letter: Stop the Anti-Desecration Amendment to the Constitution By Rex Curry
		The original Pledge of Allegiance to the USA's flag used a straight-armed salute and it was the source of the salute of the monstrous National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis).
		The gesture was not an ancient Roman salute.
		Bellamy was a self-proclaimed socialist in the nationalism movement and his dogma influenced socialists in Germany, and his pledge was the origin of their salute.
	www.sitnews.us /0605Viewpoints/062005_rex_curry.html (650 words)

	Di Canio repeats fascist salute.. - News and Politics - Non-Gaming - Discussion Forum /// Eurogamer
		'I saluted my people with what for me is a sign of belonging to a group that holds true values, values of civility against the standardisation that this society imposes upon us,' the striker told Italian radio station Radio Spazio Aperto.
		The Roman salute is another sybol that the Nazis took from another culture and now anyone who says they're doing a 'roman salute' is frankly talking bollocks and trying to get away with it.
		I really worry for the future when people younger than myself wonder what the big deal about the swastika is. Fair enough in a culture where the Nazis/Facists didnt have as big an impact, but ffs, assuming you people are from the West/Europe, I'd really hope you could understand more than you clearly do.
	www.eurogamer.net /forum_thread_posts.php?thread_id=44527&forum_id=1 (1374 words)

	First Pledge salute created by a socialist - gainesvilletimes.com
		The Pledge was the origin of the salute of the horrid National Socialist German Workers' Party, the Nazis.
		According to Dr. Martin Winkler in "The Roman Salute on Film" of the American Philological Association, the salute is not in any Roman art or text.
		Winkler didn't know about the original U.S. flag salute (1892) that inspired the films, and that the Nazi Party was inspired by the films and by the Pledge of Allegiance.
	www.gainesvilletimes.com /news/stories/20040613/opinion/8610.shtml (250 words)

	Curry - 2004, May 09
		The so-called “Roman salute” (saluto romano) is as much of a fiction as the so-called “Roman step” (passo romano) as is the idea that the National Socialist German Workers’ Party emulated Mussolini and not vice versa.
		WWII began in 1939 when Poland was invaded by the National Socialist German Workers’ Party and by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, as allies in their scheme to divide up Eastern Europe.
		The raised-arm salute is one of the best-known symbols of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, and supposedly used by Mussolini from a classical Roman custom.
	www.opinioneditorials.com /guestcontributors/curry_20040509.html (1140 words)

	Should Southerners Chant the Pledge of Allegiance? ~ by Rex Curry (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-30)
		The original pledge began with a military salute for the phrase "I pledge allegiance" and then the right arm extended straight outward toward the flag for the rest of the chant.
		The military salute was not a random choice, and the extended right arm was the origin of the salute for other national socialists who loved militarism: the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis).
		The common claim that the salute was an old Roman salute is a myth from old movies depicting fictional Roman scenes that were inspired by the pledge, and by the fact that Francis Bellamy was from Rome, in the state of New York.
	www.butterbach.net /rex/rex9.htm (1259 words)

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