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In the News (Sun 29 Nov 09)

  
  SA80: MISTAKE OR MALIGNED?
SA80 is the name of a family of rifles and light machine guns produced for the British armed forces.
The SA80 was designed in response to a NATO competition, held in 1977-79, to establish a rifle and MG cartridge to replace the 7.62x51 NATO, together with the associated weapons.
The British had of course realised the almost certain outcome, so their 4.85x49 round was based on the 5.56x45 case, and converting the SA80 to fire the new NATO cartridge was simply a matter of changing the barrel, although other modifications were made as a result of the trials.
www.quarry.nildram.co.uk /SA80.htm   (8130 words)

  
 Urban Dictionary: SA80
I too have lived day in and day out with the SA80, but I've also been issued and had many years experience with a large number of other weapons and know their fortés and foibles, and can speak with a certain degree of authority on the subject.
"The SA80, otherwise known as the L85A1, is a bullpup assault rifle chambered for 5.56x45mm NATO, 30 rounds.
The guns in the SA80 rang are the L85A1, the L86A1 LSW and the L98A1 CGP.
www.urbandictionary.com /define.php?term=SA80   (910 words)

  
 SA80 - FirearmWiki   (Site not responding. Last check: )
SA80 (Small Arms for 1980s) is a family of related arms that include the British Army's standard combat rifle.
The SA80 family is made of four weapons, the L85 IW (Individual Weapon), the L86 LSW (Light Support Weapon), the L22A1 Carbine (often referred to as the SA80A2 Carbine or SA80A2K) and the manually operated L98A1 CGP (Cadet General Purpose).
The origins of the SA80 design lie in the EM2, a bullpup design rifle that predated the standardization on the 7.62 mm NATO round and the use of the FN FAL as the British Army's battle rifle.
firearmwiki.com /mw/index.php?title=SA80   (1751 words)

  
 Assault Rifles - SA80
The SA80 Carbine is quite similar to the SA80, but has a shorter barrel and is therefore fitted with a shorter forearm.
The SA80 is used by the Navy, Airforce and non-combat personnel.
The SA80 LSW was adopted by the British as the L86.
home.planet.nl /~rouw0062/dcdbase/fa_ar_sa80.htm   (521 words)

  
 SA80
This is the springer version of the SA80 and is not really of much use in skirmishing, so it stays in the house to do a bit of plinking from time to time.
The SA80 is an all plastic construction, but the plastic doesn't look too bad, in fact the green plastic looks better than the real thing.
The SA80 as an AEG is great for skirmishing, and always impresses fellow Airsofters.
www.misklin.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk /misklin/sa80.htm   (659 words)

  
 SA80
The SA80 (Standard Arm for the 1980s) is a family of related arms that include the British Army's standard combat rifle and light support weapon.
They were introduced to service in 1985, and will likely remain the primary infantry weapon until 2015.
In 1997 the SA80 was dropped from NATO's list of approved weapons.
www.ebroadcast.com.au /lookup/encyclopedia/ls/LSW.html   (1305 words)

  
 Guardian | SA80 rifle
The SA80 rifle was British designed with the purpose of becoming the armed forces' main assault rifle, and it came into service in the 1980s.
Very early on, there were complaints that and it had a propensity to jam when in abrasive conditions, shattering the confidence soldiers had in it.
The document said the SA80 will not work with new systems due to be issued in 2008 which would see day/night(thermal imaging) sights, laser aimers and other equipment fitted to its short "bull pup" design.
www.guardian.co.uk /print/0,,4510481-110595,00.html   (636 words)

  
 SA80
The original SA80 rifle was suspended from the Nato nominated weapon list in 1997 after soldiers experienced problems such as jamming in extreme weather, and it was subjected to a £92m modification programme.
The original SA80 was suspended from the Nato nominated weapon list in 1997 after soldiers experienced problems such as jamming in extreme weather, and it was subjected to a £92 million modification programme.
The SA80 has a reputation for accuracy, this is due largely to the heavy barrel that is nearly free-floating on the L98A1 (but for the fore-end screw), plus the SUSAT x4 optical sight, a higher magnification than any other military rifle I am aware of.
www.avhub.net /MI_SA80prob.htm   (8638 words)

  
 Defence Internet | Defence News | Big savings in SA80 maintenance effort   (Site not responding. Last check: )
Owing to a shortage of qualified armourers, the Army was obliged to include part of this requirement in the tasks for the ABRO, at a cost of about £75 per weapon; the RN had to return weapons to shore as the service could not be completed onboard ship.
A single routine was drawn up for the current weapon, the SA80 A2, for all operating environments; arctic, desert and jungle, with a slight variation for Navy weapons to allow for the possibility of salt water damage.
The SA80 study findings were agreed and implementation began within three months of the publication of the report.
www.mod.uk /DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/EquipmentAndLogistics/BigSavingsInSa80MaintenanceEffort.htm   (375 words)

  
 Factsheets Database - SA 80 Assault Rifle - Powered by ReviewPost
SA80 (Small Arms for 1980s) is a family of related arms that include the British Armed Forces's standard combat rifle.
The SA80 family is made of four weapons, the L85 IW (Individual Weapon or Rifle), the L86 LSW (Light Support Weapon), the L22A1 Carbine (often referred to as the SA80A2 Carbine or SA80A2K) and the manually operated L98A1 CGP (Cadet General Purpose).
In 2006 a decision was made by the British Ministry of Defence that the carbine version of the SA80 is to be issued to Apache pilots of the Army Air Corps rather than the tank crews.
www.trackpads.com /factsheets/showproduct.php/product/499   (2097 words)

  
 SA80 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The SA80 family is made of four weapons: the L85 IW (Individual Weapon or "Rifle") or SA80A2, the L86 LSW (Light Support Weapon), the L22A1 Carbine (often referred to as the SA80A2 Carbine or SA80A2K) and the manually operated L98A1 CGP (Cadet General Purpose).
For many years, the SA80 was not available in a grenadier version with underslung grenade launcher, though the American M16 series of rifles had possessed this type of capability for decades in the form of the M203.
To date, the only other nations to use the SA80 are Jamaica, Mozambique, Zimbabwe, all of whom received quantities of the SA80 as foreign aid.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/SA80   (2969 words)

  
 SA80
The remaining version of the SA80 adopted by the British Army is the L86A1 Light Support Weapon (LSW), essentially a version of the rifle with a longer barrel and bipod fitted on an outrigger, as well as a rear grip.
In examining the SA80 in detail, one is struck by the "Meccano" set style of manufacture, the bolt carrier for example looks like it was machined by a Mongolian desert tribesman using a pocket file, but despite the looks it does work properly.
My general impression of the SA80 is that it was obviously designed at least in part by target shooters, which is why it is such a dire military rifle, as it makes too many concessions to paper punching and not enough focus went on practicality.
www.cybershooters.org /sa80.htm   (2122 words)

  
 L85A1 Individual Weapon (SA80) - Assault Rifle - Infantry Weapons
The L85A1 Individual Weapon (SA80) is a Conventional Gas-Piston System, Assault Rifle produced by the Britain.
It is chambered to fire 5.56 mm ammunition and was first produced in 1985.
SA80 is the Designation For a Revolutionary Family of Assault Weapons.
www.militaryfactory.com /smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=22   (137 words)

  
 The Infantry - Small Arms in the Section
SA80 can be fitted with the SUSAT sight and a Common Weapon Sight (CWS), which is a third generation Image Intensification (II) night sight.
The SA80 General Purpose is a single shot version of the IW and is in service with the Army Cadets.
SA80 A2 LSW has a heavier and longer barrel allowing greater muzzle velocity and accuracy than the IW.
www.army.mod.uk /infantry/current_equipment/the_infantry_small_arms_in_the_section.htm   (608 words)

  
 Sa80: 31 Mar 2003: Written answers (TheyWorkForYou.com)
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on problems with the SA80 in the conflict in the Gulf; and what steps are being taken to overcome such problems.
The new cleaning regime introduced for the modified SA80 is minimising the effects of the harsh environmental conditions.
Units have expressed confidence in the modified SA80, and its performance during operations in Iraq thus far has demonstrated that it is one of the most reliable weapons in its class.
www.theyworkforyou.com /wrans/?id=2003-03-31.105513.h   (152 words)

  
 Scotland on Sunday - UK - Jinxed SA80 rifle goes back for yet another refit
Despite assurances that the SA80 was fit for use in desert environments, soldiers on several occasions released the safety catch only to find they still could not fire.
Ministers have consistently resisted calls to abandon the SA80, which has been dogged by complaints since it was first introduced as the military’s general-issue personal rifle 19 years ago.
Servicemen and women across the three forces have complained that the original SA80 was difficult to clean and continually jammed, particularly in "extreme conditions" such as the heat and dust of deserts.
scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com /uk.cfm?id=92352004   (440 words)

  
 BBC NEWS | Politics | Future uncertain for 'faulty' army rifles
Doubt is being cast over the future of the army's controversial assault rifle at the centre of complaints about performance, according to a new official report.
The SA80 is the UK forces' standard weapon, but the troops say it sometimes jams in action.
The report is understood to say the SA80 is basically sound, but that troops have lost confidence in it, with dangers for morale and operations.
news.bbc.co.uk /1/hi/uk_politics/2153355.stm   (465 words)

  
 Scotland on Sunday - Opinion - Letters - No tears shed for demise of SA80
He is quite right to highlight the failure of the SA80 ‘family’ to provide robust, reliable and effective basic weapons for our infantry soldiers.
Had the SA80 been in issue at the time of the Falklands conflict the impact of the unreliability and ineffectiveness of our infantry rifles/machine-guns in what was an infantry war could have been catastrophic.
Hopefully, the introduction of the Minimi machine gun (costing a fraction of the recent SA80 refit) to replace the light supportw eapon within the basic infantry section will herald the end of an inglorious chapter in the history of the British Army’s small arms development.
scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com /letters.cfm?id=634972003   (476 words)

  
 Modern Firearms - Enfield L85 (SA80) assault rifle
In general, L85 was quite unreliable and troublesome to handle and maintain, so, finally, in the year 1997, after years of constant complaints from the troops, it had been decided to upgrade most L85 rifles then in service.
Other than the basic L85A1 variant, the SA80 IW also appeared in the shortened Carbine version, and in the manually operated L98A1 rifle, which got its gas system removed and a larger cocking handle attached.
The latest weapon in the SA80 family is the recently adopted L22 carbine, which is issued to tank crews of Royal Armoured Corps.
world.guns.ru /assault/as22-e.htm   (1185 words)

  
 RM45.COM - SA80 AEG Inside-out   (Site not responding. Last check: )
SA80 is the symbol of the British Infantry, and also the dream gun of the wargamers who are in British uniform.
However, due to the lack of upgrading capability of the Academy SA80, it is hard to find a team to use it as a major weapon in the games.
The major drawback is it uses EG560 motor by default and the incompatiablity of gears with later generation gears.
royalmarines.mine.nu /sa80/sa80.php   (248 words)

  
 SA-80 Shame of the British Army
The 5.56mm SA80 was originally the 4.85mm IW which was first produced in 1973 as a prototype weapon for the NATO calibre trials.
It was during the Gulf War in 1991 that the mainstream press became aware of the malfunctions, jamming and reliability problems that the SA80 was prone to, including, apparently, a tendency to fire if dropped or struck on the muzzle.
In 1997 the SA80 was dropped from NATO's list of approved weapons because it was having difficulty firing NATO approved ammunition reliably.
www.angelfire.com /art/enchanter/SA80.html   (1132 words)

  
 SA80 rilfe
The SA80 or L85A1 is the British Army standard issue rifle(5.56 calibre with a 30 round magazine).
The other versions of the SA80 are the smaller SA80 carbine which was issued in late 2003 for tank crews because they complained they struggle to get to service rifle out of their tanks.
It has been designed to be mounted beneath the barrel of the sa80, will be issued to each fire team, replacing the Rifle Grenade General Service (RGGS) and 51mm mortar – significantly reducing the ammunition load the infantry section carries, while enhancing its capabilities.
mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk /armyweapons/page1.html   (310 words)

  
 SA80 A2 Rifle: 6 May 2003: Written answers (TheyWorkForYou.com)
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what assessment he has made of the performance of the SA80 A2 used by British troops in the recent Iraq conflict.
It would, therefore, be premature for me to provide a detailed assessment of the performance at this stage.
Early indications are, however, that SA80 A2 performed well overall.
www.theyworkforyou.com /wrans/?id=2003-05-06.111656.h   (130 words)

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