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| | 9733/9812—A World of Refugees—8/19/97, 3/24/98 |
 | | OGATA: A refugee is someone who crosses borders and seeks the protection of another country because he or she is no longer able to receive the protection of a state—his own state—on account of persecution, which is caused by political or religious or various group causes. |
 | | OGATA: But from the very beginning, my office was set up by General Assembly resolution in 1950, and then there was a statute, a convention on the protection of refugees which was adopted the next year. |
 | | OGATA: Well there are long-standing refugees, for example, in the Horn of Africa where there has been fighting between the Ethiopians, Somalis, and there are some nomadic people who move from one country to another, depending on the problems that exist. |
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