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	Schrage Musik Gunsight (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		"Schrage Musik" ("Slanted Music, or "Jazz") is the term used for a gun configuration used in Luftwaffe night fighters in the Second World War.
		In fact, the greatest danger to a fighter using Schrage Musik was often getting out of the way of the stricken target as it fell to earth!
		The Schrage Musik in the He219 were usually two MK108 30 mm cannon with 100 rpg angled upwards at 65 degrees.
	www.simviation.com /gryphon/cfs1/he219-sight.htm (613 words)

	The WWII Fighter Gun Debate: Upward firing guns
		This is a Ju 88G-6 with liquid-cooled Jumo 213 engines, Lichtenstein SN radar, and two Schräge Musik MG 151/20 cannon installed in the aft fuselage.
		There was more to Schräge Musik than just fitting a few angled-up cannon, usually MG 151/20 or MK 108.
		These were put in the rear of the cockpit of the Bf 110, in the aft fuselage of the He 219, and behind the cockpit of the Ju 88 and Do 217.
	www.geocities.com /CapeCanaveral/Hangar/8217/fgun/fgun-uf.html (1761 words)

	Night Fighters Radar Air Defenses (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		Installation in Bf 110s, Ju 88s and Do 217s of 'schrage musik' allowed night fighters to attack from directly beneath the bombers without having to execute the intricate maneuvers described above.
		The two MG FFs or MG 151/20s 20mm cannons mounted in the cabin or fuselage at a 70 -80 angle were aimed by a second Revi C.12/D or 16B gun sight mounted on the canopy roof.
		'Schrage musik' proved to be lethal and took a fearsome toll of heavy bombers in the night battles of 1944 - 45.
	www.ww2guide.com /night.shtml (2670 words)

	Schräge Musik (slanting music, or Jazz) in He 219, Bf 110 - FileFront Gaming Forums
		In the Schräge Musik tactic, the nightfighters carried specially equipped 20mm cannon almost upright in the fuselage or rear cockpit of the planes.
		Schrage Musik was very successful and in the case of the Lancaster and Halifax, they didnt have belly turrets to spot bombers.
		With the schräge musik you do just the latter mentioned, without having to pull up (bounce) under the bomber to aim your guns at it......so it is even more practical then a normal fighter.
	forums.filefront.com /showthread.php?t=146302 (1799 words)

	Ex Air Gunners: July 2001
		‘Schrage Musik’ proved to be lethal and took a fearsome toll of heavy bombers in the night battles.
		P138: The Schrage Musik cannon fired a lethal mixture of armour-piercing, explosive and incendiary ammunition, and a split-second burst, a single pressure of the thumb on the fire button, was usually sufficient to set the wing ablaze and damage the Stirling, Lancaster, or Halifax beyond hope of recovery.
		Schrage Musik came into its own with devastating effect during the second half of 1943 and the first half of 1944.
	www.airmuseum.ca /mag/exag0107.html (4383 words)

	RAF History - Bomber Command 60th Anniversary
		This represents 6.7 per cent of the force dispatched but was judged an acceptable cost for the successful attack on this important target on a moonlit night.
		This was the first night on which the Germans used their new schrage Musik weapons; these were twin upward-firing cannons fitted in the cockpit of Me 110s.
		Two schrage Musik aircraft found the bomber stream flying home from Peenemunde and are believed to have shot down 6 of the bombers lost on the raid.
	www.raf.mod.uk /bombercommand/peenemunde.html (510 words)

	Heinkel He 219 by Mikhail Poutnikov (Tamiya 1/48) (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		The upward-firing "Schrage Musik" weapon system on the He 219 aircraft was another interesting aspect.
		In the Ronald Remp's book I came across of a note that the "Schrage Musik" was deleted by the airfield crew because they had structural problems in the rear fuselage (cracks in the fuselage ribs caused by the heavy recoil).
		It was a good indication that "Schrage Musik" was installed, so I would have to add the upward gun-sight on my model.
	www.kitparade.com /features00/he219mp_1.htm (3355 words)

	Heinkel He 219 Uhu (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		Some aircraft had and additional two 30 mm MK 108 cannon in a schrage Musik (Jazz Music) with 100 rounds per gun.
		The scheme was made possible by the amazing fact that British heavy bombers not only had not one gun firing downwards but also not one window from which a formating night-fighter could be seen.
		The usual schräge Musik installation in the He 219 comprised two MK 108s each with 100 rounds, fixed aft of the fuselage tanks at an angle of 65°.
	www.kotfsc.com /aviation/he-219.htm (3067 words)

	Junkers Ju 88 (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		Two MG 151/20 in 'Schrage Musik' installation (200 rounds each) and defensive MG 131 (500 rounds) swivelling in rear roof.
		The twin nose cannon were removed, but the aircraft carried Lichtenstein nose radar, with Flensburg aerials on the wings that enabled it to home in on RAF bombers using tail-warning radar emission.
		The Ju 88G-1 had BMW 801D engines and developed into a number of sub-types; the Ju 88G-4 was the first to use the Me 110's schrage Musik installation of two MG 151 cannon, which fired forwards and upwards.
	www.kotfsc.com /aviation/ju-88.htm (3703 words)

	SimHQ Forums: Revi gunsight for Schräge Musik (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		As far as I know Schrage Musik was triggered by photo-electric cells and required no gunsight.
		An outgrowth of the Schräge Musik concept was the development of a number of vertically firing Sondergeräte, a term which can be translated as "special devices".
		On the other hand, the Schrage Muzik was successfully employed by night-fighters, so obviouly a photoelectric triggering mechanism would not work at night.
	www.simhq.com /cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=98;t=004321 (635 words)

	World War II Online HQ (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		Unescorted bomber formations could be devastated, but once fighters became involved, the 110s were in a lot of trouble.
		The "Schrage Musik" (Jazz Music) adaption on the 110 was a set of cannons placed on an angle on top of the 110.
		It was used most effectively against Lancaster bombers that did not had a MG port to fire at that angle.
	www.hq.wwiionline.com /profiles/bf110.shtml (188 words)

	Stenberg Aviation Art (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		Shedding debris and trailing flames, there may just be time for the crew to bale out before the mighty bomber falls away into the dark abyss.
		With the aid of his FuG 220 and upward-firing Schrage Musik armament, Zorner has stalked his prey, and attacked from beneath unseen.
		The crew of this Lancaster didn't stand a chance, and with the moonlight briefly glinting on his aircraft, the accomplished Ju88 pilot slips away into the darkness of the night.
	www.stenbergaa.com /stenberg/item1424.html (235 words)

	RTV/MODELISMO MILITAR :: View topic - Mitsubishi Ki 46-III Dinah Nightfighter (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		The tactic was thus modified to using the schrage musik to knock out the tail gunner, then attack conventionally from behind, shooting out the engines etc; with your nose guns.
		Long bursts also weakened the airframe at the nearest structural point/bulkhead to the gun, which is why the early, twin 20mm "Schrage Musik" equipped Heinkel 219's were prone to break in half just behind the cockpit if landed heavily.
		The 219 was a safer aircraft (and just as deadly as a nightfighter) without the "Schrage Musik" most of the first series of He 219 had it removed fairly quickly, the second series were never fitted for or with it.
	rtvmodeler.com /Foro/viewtopic.php?t=304 (791 words)

	Junkers Ju88A-4
		Maximum speed was 360 mph (580 km/h), with a ceiling of 31,500 ft (9600m) and a range of 1360 MI (2,195 km).
		It packed quite a wallop with five or six 20 mm cannons (including a set of cannons firing upwards at an angle of 60 degrees, called Schrage Musik) and a heavy 13 mm machine gun in the rear.
		These armaments were required to quickly down the large Allied bombers at night, when they could be visible for only a short period of time.
	www.savagesquadron.com /GEpage/GEBombers/Ju_88A-4.htm (330 words)

	ProModeler 1/48 Bf-110G-4 Night Fighter
		When it was determined that the Kammhuber line had serious issues, the technical development of an airborne radar system brought the Bf-110 into its own.
		The large antenna slowed the airplane considerably but the heavy armament, including the slant angle firing Schrage Musik cannon, made the Bf-110 a force to be contended with.
		Originally intended to be replaced in 1943 by the Me-210/410, the Bf-110 was produced until the end of the war.
	www.ipmsusa.org /Reviews/Archive/Kits/Aircraft/Promodeler_48_bf-110g-4/Promodeler_48_bf-110g-4.htm (1822 words)

	The world's top junkers ju 388 websites (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		The plane was to be supplied in the three original versions, J, K and L. The J model was a fighter with two 30 mm MK 103's and two 20 mm MG151/20's in a solid nose when used as a bomber destroyer.
		The K model was a pure bomber, with a pannier under the plane to increase the size of the bay.
		The -2 would use the 2,500 hp (1,864 kW) Jumo 222A/B (the B model ran the opposite direction of the A, but was otherwise identical), or the E/F versions with an improved two-speed supercharger.
	dirs.org /wiki-article-tab.cfm/junkers_ju_388 (887 words)

	Italeri 1/72 Messerschmitt Bf-110G4/R3
		The G-4 variant represented in this kit was the variant most widely used by the Nachtjagdgeschwader and was armed with two 20 mm cannon and four MG17's in the nose, and twin MG17's in the rear cockpit.
		Later variants were often fitted with the deadly upward firing "Schrage Musik" installations, consisting of 20 mm cannon mounted on the fuselage behind the canopy, firing upwards at an angle of 70-80 degrees.
		Unfortunately this kit does not give one the option of finishing a 110 with this installation, but it would require little extra work to represent an aircraft with such a "Schrage Musik" fit.
	www.fortunecity.com /meltingpot/portland/971/Reviews/luftwaffe/bf-110g4.htm (1023 words)

	Italeri 1/72 Junkers Ju 88C-6 (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		These replaced the clear nose of the bomber with a more streamlined solid nose which contained four guns which combined with the windscreen mounted gun and one mounted in the retained ventral cupola gave a total of six heavy machine guns to bear.
		Later versions incorporated the Schrage Musik installation in the fuselage firing upward and early versions of the new radar systems.
		The C series retained the Jumo engines of the A series whereas the later G series combined the BMW engines and became formidable nightfighters.
	www.fortunecity.com /meltingpot/portland/971/Reviews/luftwaffe/ju-88c-6.htm (1019 words)

	Best Plane of WW2 [Archive] - SpaceBattles.com (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		One sneaky thing the German Night Fighter had though was the Schrage Musik fitting.
		German for Jazz Music (don't ask me where the name came from) this fitting consisted of a number of cannons, usually around 20mm, and numbering on average four weapons, on the fuselage of the night fighter angled up at about 45 degrees.
		I think it was because Schrage means slanted (Schrage Musik was Jazz) and the guns were like:
	kier.3dfrontier.com /forums/archive/index.php/t-27970.html (1907 words)

	Netwings File Library
		Control surface animation is good and the flight performance seems to be right on for a multi-engine fighter of this type.
		The "schrage musik" guns aft of the cockpit are fun to use on bombers, but they really need a sight system.
		A simple one like the He219 Uhu's sight that is available for both CFS1 and 2 would be fine.
	www.netwings.org /library/Ratings/000000619.html (401 words)

	Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums - Aircraft armament survey?
		On the British side the contender goes to the Bristol Beaufighter 4x 20mm hispano cannons and 6x 0.303 machine guns.
		The Germans had a number of heavy weight players the heaviest standard one is the Heinkel 219 A-7/R1 which carried a forward firing armament of 2x 30 mm MK108,2x 30mm MK103 and 2x 20mm MG151 cannons as well as 2x 30mm MK 108's firring upwards[ Schrage Musik ].
		A Messerschmitt 410 flown by Lieutenant Rudi Dassow had 8x 20mm MG 151's firring forward.
	www.wehrmacht-awards.com /forums/printthread.php?t=28245 (304 words)

	Italeri 1/72 Bf-110G-4
		The "schrage musik" cannon arrangement was especially effective.
		This particular version does not carry the "schrage musik" arrangement.
		The modeler is greeted with three sprues of injection molded plastic, two in light grey, and one in clear.
	modelingmadness.com /reviews/axis/luft/heureaux110.htm (697 words)

	German Bombers of World War II (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		From 1943 on schrage Musik (Jazz) upward firing cannon proved devastating to RAF bombers.
		The usual arrangement of schrage Musik is two 20mm MG 151s at an inclination of 70 degrees.
		On the night of July 12/13, 1944 a Ju 88G-1 hunting mine-laying Stirling bombers became hopelessly lost and landed at RAF Woodbridge, Suffolk.
	www.ww2guide.com /germanb.shtml (4517 words)

	STUNT STUKA page 31 (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-03)
		This enabled it to fly amongst the night time bomber streams, and slide into a position below them (which was 'blind spot' for many RAF bombers) and open fire.
		this was a very effective technique codenamed 'schrage musik' (Jazz music) by the Luftwaffe.
		It proved to be the best night fighter in Luftwaffe service, but like many late war projects was only available in small numbers which were fortunately not sufficient to alter the outcome of the war.
	www.myunclewillies.com /about5.html2.html (628 words)

	TAMIYA 1/48 Scale Model - Aircraft Series "Heinkel He219 A-7 UHU"
		It is equipped with larger, improved super charger intakes for its DB603G engines.
		Coupled with a FuG220 radar, two dorsal 30mm canons dubbed "Schrage Musik" plus two each 20 or 30mm canons in the wing-roots and the ventral tray enhanced A-7's capability as a high altitude night-fighter.
		Although the total number of production was only 268 until the end of the war, the Heinkel He219 Uhu gained noteworthy results against allied airforces and was supposed to be the best among the Luftwaffe's reciprocating engined night-fighters.
	www.zootoyz.net /en-us/p_317.html (247 words)

	1/48 Pro Modeler Bf-110G-4 by Bill Lachance
		I had to add the bearers after the engine was placed in the nacelle.
		I left the "Schrage Musik" cannons loose so they would fit through the openings in the rear canopy.
		The nose gun package fit very well, and I added some hydraulic and electrical lines from solder and copper wire.
	s96920072.onlinehome.us /Gal4/3101-3200/Gal3190_Bf-110_Lachance/gal3190.htm (309 words)

	ProModeler 1/48 Bf-110G-4
		In September, 1943, SN-2 radar was introduced, operating on a frequency that was not jammed by "window." At the same time, Major Rudolf Shoenert was able to demonstrate the effectiveness of lighter-color night fighter camouflage, which broke up the fighter's shape in moonlight rather than emphasizing its silhouette as the earlier all-fl camouflage did.
		Shoenert was also the first to effectively use "Schrage Musik" - two 20mm MG-FF cannon mounted in the rear of the Bf-110s cockpit, firing upward at an angle of 70-80 degrees.
		Since none of the British bombers had a lower turret, Schrage Musik made it possible for a night fighter to formate unseen below a bomber, firing up into it.
	modelingmadness.com /reviews/axis/luft/cleaver110g.htm (2616 words)

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