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	Seer stone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		A seer stone is a magic stone or crystal used for crystallomancy, a form of divination.
		In historic Mormonism, a seer stone is a stone or crystal used by a prophet for receiving revelation from God.
		These stones are thought to be not as significant as the Urim and Thummim, though Joseph was said to have used both the Urim and Thummim and these other stones as aids to receiving divine revelation.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Seer_stone (791 words)

	The Seer Stone Society
		Although the stone in question is said to have been used for healing purposes, it is interesting that it immediately follows a statement about Abraham’s astronomical capabilities which, according to Abraham 3:1, he acquired in part through the stones known as the urim and thummim.
		The Prophet Joseph examined it and declared it to be a seer stone.
		Seer stones, or peepstones, as they are more commonly called, was very plenty about Parowan, I rather being a gifted person in knowing a peepstone when seeing one altho I had never found one yet I could see in.
	seerstone.blogspot.com (6370 words)

	Seers and Seer Stones by Ogden Kraut (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		Certain stones can only be used for seership by a few individuals, for one seer stone may be illuminated by spiritual light for one person but it may not be so for another.
		SEER'S ROD Among the instruments used by seers is found mention of a "rod." The terms of a shepherd's "rod and staff," as mentioned in the 23rd Psalm, were synonymous with the great "Shepherd of Israel." The rod and staff being the ensigns of power and government, as well as instruments for punishing offenders.
		He said that every man who lived on the earth was entitled to a seer stone, and should have one, but they are kept from them in consequence of their wickedness, and most of those who do find one make an evil use of it; he showed us his seer stone.
	www.helpingmormons.org /SeerStones.htm (20401 words)

	Seer stone: Facts and details from Encyclopedia Topic (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		A seer stone is a magic stone or crystal used for crystallomancy Crystal gazing quick summary:
		(a seer stone was a stone or crystal said to be used for receiving revelation revelation quick summary:
		Typically a possessor of such a stone is considered a seer.
	www.absoluteastronomy.com /encyclopedia/s/se/seer_stone.htm (967 words)

	JULIO (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		JOEL - The seer stone was a small smooth brown stone about the size of an egg which Joseph Smith found in 1822 while digging a well for a man called Willard Chase.
		The seer stone was no different than the Urim and Thumim Joseph Smith was given, which was constructed of two seer stones bound together in a silver bow.
		The seer stone is kept in a safe place and is not available for public viewing as far as I know.
	www.mormonhaven.com /julio1.htm (449 words)

	Times & Seasons » The Jurisprudence of Seer Stones
		For Whitmer, Joseph’s miraculous seer stone seemed to have warranted the truthfulness of his revelations and without the stone, he doubted the authenticity of Joseph’s commandments.
		Seer stones were a way of fending off anarchy and certifying the genuineness of revelation.
		Two notes bushman makes are that the English saints actually brought over seer stones, which Joseph approved of and encouraged when brought to him (maybe after 1838?) after the Hiram page incident, and President Taylor consicrater a seer stone on the alter of the Manti Temple in the 1880’s.
	www.timesandseasons.org /?p=2601 (4454 words)

	Seer stone stolen from first presidency vault
		It is at best an oral tradition within the church that a seer stone was or is owned by the church.
		They indicate, that the light that powers a seer stone comes from within your soul, and that since it is (partially/mostly) you that is providing the energy to light the stone, that the specific type of stone is less important than what you bring to the experience with you.
		They say that they hold the stone, and meditate upon it, and that before long (1/2 hour) they begin to see flashes of light, and that with experience, they see people, and etc, and that it becomes easier with practice.
	www.absalom.com /mormon/parable/seer-stone.htm (2346 words)

	By Common Consent » Seer stone lessons
		The idea the Joseph used an Urim and Thummim and seer stones in his translation of the Book of Mormon is taught to us from Primary on.
		I was recently made aware of a new blog that purports to support the use of seer stones by citing mainstream Mormon scholarship.
		It appears that the possession of “gadgets” is essential to be a Seer, and furthermore, that the translation of the BOM would not have been possible without them, as they were specifically prepared for the translation of the book.
	www.bycommonconsent.com /2006/02/seer-stone-lessons (1377 words)

	Mormonism Research Ministry - Articles - A Seer Stone and a Hat -- "Translating" the Book of Mormon
		Harris said that the seer stone Smith possessed was a "chocolate-colored, somewhat egg-shaped stone which the Prophet found while digging a well in company with his brother Hyrum." Harris went on to say it was by using this stone that "Joseph was able to translate the characters engraven on the plates" (CHC 1:129).
		The use of similar types of seer stones, or peep stones as they were also called, was quite common among believers in folk magic during the time of Joseph Smith.
		There is also evidence to demonstrate that the seer stone Smith used to translate the gold plates was the same stone which got him into trouble with the law in 1826.
	www.mrm.org /multimedia/text/seer-stone.html (2020 words)

	The Translation and Publication of the Book of Mormon - FARMS Papers
		He said, though, one time when Joseph was using the seer stone for the purpose of translating, he became weary of translation; one can imagine after two or three hours of sitting and working like that, that they would want to go and take a rest, and they did.
		Then he was able to exchange the seer stone for the stone that he had found, so that when Joseph began the translation again, instead of having the seer stone he had the stone that had been picked up by Martin.
		We have already seen from the story of Martin Harris that it was a very particular stone that was designated as the seer stone, so he had to be in the proper spirit to be able to use the seer stone or the Nephite interpreters.
	farms.byu.edu /display.php?table=transcripts&id=13 (6151 words)

	Gospel Doctrine Lesson 27
		This experience confirms that Joseph was putting the seer stone in the hat, and that the Nephite characters appeared in the stone, without the need of seeing the plates.
		Such a monitor--mounted in an eyepiece [seer stone], special glasses [Urim and Thummim: two stones mounted in a bow, which resembled a large pair of "old-fashioned" spectacles], or goggles [like the seer stone in the hat]--would present users with a virtual image [or ancient text to translate] of any desired size, resolution and viewing distance.
		Stoning the transgressor was one of the punishments God commanded ancient Israel, and which was part of their law.
	www.lds-mormon.com /bm27pt2.shtml?FACTNet (6442 words)

	By Common Consent » South Park, Peepstones, and Mormon General Knowledge
		Either the seer stone was equated with the Urim and Thummim or it was said that Moroni gave Joseph the seer stone as a replacement for the Urim and Thummim.
		I don’t have Rough Stone Rolling with me right now, but I seem to remember that Bushman quoted one instance of Joseph making a distinction between using his “seer stone” which was a gift from God, and “peeping” which he called “d–n nonsense” or something to that effect.
		In fact, the use of the seer stone in the hat, documented by David Whitmer, Martin Harris, and Emma Smith, at least (and openly acknowledged by the General leadership of the Church ever since), weighs against a naturalistic explanation, in a certain sense.
	www.bycommonconsent.com /2005/11/south-park-peepstones-and-mormon-general-knowledge (16395 words)

	Joseph Smith's Translation of the Book of Mormon - FARMS Papers
		His reticence was probably well justified and may have been due to the inordinate interest which some of the early Saints had shown in the seer stone or to the negative and sometimes bitter reactions he encountered when he had reported some of his sacred experiences to others.
		According to most accounts, the seer stone was used during all stages of the translation of the Book of Mormon, both before and after the loss of the first 116 manuscript pages.
		Joseph would put the seer stone into a hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine.
	farms.byu.edu /display.php?id=10&table=transcripts (2800 words)

	South Park Mormons Part 3
		Inside, Joseph Smith finds two “magical seer stones” and “four gold plates.” When the townspeople ask to see the plates and the seer stones, Joseph hesitates and explains that the Angel Moroni told him not to show them to anyone.
		Joseph Smith did not find any of his seer stones with the golden plates, although that is what South Park depicts.
		He had a white opaque stone, a greenish-colored seer stone (shown in South Park) and a brown seer stone that remains in the possession of the First Presidency of the LDS Church.
	www.i4m.com /think/southpark/golden_plates.htm (699 words)

	South Park Mormons Part 4
		It shows Joseph Smith putting two seer stones into a hat, then burying his face in the hat and dictating words to Martin Harris.
		Joseph Smith's first wife, Emma, was an eye-witness to Joseph Smith's use of a seer stone during the transcribing of the Book of Mormon.
		Revelations given through the seer stone at the Whitmer home in Fayette, New York, during 1829 include not only LDS Doctrine and Covenants sections 14 through 17, but also section 18.
	www.i4m.com /think/southpark/mormon_translation.htm (630 words)

	MORMON CENTRAL - JOSEPH SMITH - LDS TEMPLES - BOOK OF MORMON - MORMONISM
		The seer stone was also called a Urim and Thummim since the purpose was to translate languages.
		This stone was the stone (he had more than one stone) through which Joseph Smith discover the ancient record engraved in Egyptian hieroglyphics on plates of gold.
		I then asked him if he had ever looked through the stones, to see what he could see in them; his reply was that he was not permitted to look into them.
	www.xmission.com /~research/central/resth9.htm (1240 words)

	Dale Morgan on Early Mormonism: A Hat and a Stone
		Joseph clung to this seer stone the rest of his life, even after his first employment of it had become a memory to be curtained off by his will, and as late as 1841 he exhibited it to some of his followers.
		After obtaining the stone, he began to publish abroad what wonders he could discover by looking in it, and made so much disturbance among the credulous part of [the] community, that I ordered the stone to be returned to me again.
		This stone was carried off to Utah by Cowdery's brother-in-law, Phineas Young, after the death of the former in 1850 (see the letter of Cowdery's daughter, Maria L. Johnson, to David Whitmer, South West City, Missouri, Jan. 24, 1887, the original of which is preserved in the library of the Reorganized LDS church).
	www.signaturebookslibrary.org /dalemorgan/dalechapter2.htm (6840 words)

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		While many paintings and pictures used in Mormon visitor's centers and books depict a prayerful Smith leaning over the plates, many contemporaries of Smith admit that he used a hat and a seer stone as a means of bringing about this "divine" record.
		Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine.
		Although allowing for the possibility that seer stones could have been used by Smith, Maxwell says this did not mean Smith was translating letter by letter as the earlier witnesses suggest he did.
	www.caic.org.au /lds/seer-sto.htm (2113 words)

	Mormon: Russell M. Nelson admits to Joseph Smith's seer stone in hat on LDS.ORG
		Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone, Martin explained the translation as follows: By aid of the seer stone,
		Edward Stevenson reported that Martin Harris (who served as Joseph's scribe between April and June of 1828) testified to him that "the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he used the seer stone."
		This seer stone is now in the possession of the church."---"Doctrines of Salvation," vol.
	www.exmormon.org /mormon/mormon266.htm (2350 words)

	Urim and Thummim (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		Joseph used these and other seer stones that he found in various ways (occasionally referred to by the biblical term Urim and Thummim) for several purposes, primarily in translating the Book of Mormon and receiving revelations (see HC 1:21-23, 33, 36, 45, 49; 3:28; 5:xxxii; CHC 6:230-31).
		God's dwelling place is called a Urim and Thummim; and the white stone of Revelation 2:17 is to become a Urim and Thummim for inheritors of the Celestial Kingdom (DandC 130:8-10).
		The Prophet also had a seer stone which was separate and distinct from the Urim and Thummim, and which (speaking loosely) has been called by some a Urim and Thummim.
	www.lightplanet.com /mormons/daily/prayer/seer_stones_eom.htm (1230 words)

	How the Book of Mormon was Translated
		Joseph Smith was a seer able to translate the golden plates into the Book of Mormon by his Seer abilities not by the plates themselves.
		Joseph Smith and others would refer to the seer stone both as "Interpreters" and as the "Urim and Thummim." Just because he called them this, does not mean they actually were that.
		The stone or stones were used for many things in the church.
	www.letusreason.org /LDS17.htm (4052 words)

	Hiram Page (1800-1852)
		Before June 1829, according to Hiram and Oliver, Joseph used a seer stone to receive a revelation directing Hiram and Oliver to sell the copyright to the Book of Mormon in Toronto >.
		Conference at length assembled, the subject of the Stone andc was brought up, and after considerable discussion, reasoning and investigation Hyrum agreed to renounce the stone and its author, and the brethren unanimously agreed to renounce them also—
		Well, we were all in great trouble; and we asked Joseph how it was that he had received a revelation from the Lord and the brethren had utterly failed in their undertaking.
	www.saintswithouthalos.com /b/page_h.phtml (1897 words)

	Eyewitness Descriptions of Joseph Smith's Translation Method
		According to the people who were there at the time, the reason that the seer stone was so important was because the English words appeared in the stone, and refused to disappear until the scribe had written the words down correctly — including the spelling of the words!
		The Urim and Thummim, as was originally described as being found with the plates, was a breastplate with two stones attached to it by a rim.
		Joseph owned at least four peep stones in his life; a green one, a sandy-colored one, an opaque-white one, and a dark brown one.
	home.comcast.net /~zarahemla/JShat.html (1146 words)

	Mormonism 201: Chapter 8 Book of Mormon (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		9 Indeed, in volume 1, which comprises the history of the Mormon Church from its inception until May of 1834, the only mention of a seer stone is to one which belonged to Hiram Page, and his use of that stone and the "revelations" he received from it are heartily condemned there.
		63 A Seer Stone is an object used for the purpose of scrying (gazing in to determine the future or learn information), much like using a crystal ball.
		But the seer stone was a chocolate colored, egg-shaped stone that Joseph Smith found while digging a well in 1822 (Comprehensive History of the Church, 1:129; also D. Michael Quinn, Early Mormonism and the Magic World View, p.
	www.mormonismresearchministry.org /articles/mormonism_201/chapter_08 (9929 words)

	quotes regarding Joseph Smith's seerstone from The Refiner's Fire
		The magical orbit of the Smith family in Ontario County was thus filled with influences running back to the various sectarian-occult traditions of the late-seventeenth-century migrations.
		He apparently found the first of these, described as "a whitish opaque stone," in September 1819, by borrowing Sally Chase's green glass; he found his favorite stone, a brown one, while he and his brothers were digging a well for the Chases in 1822.
		Sometime after 1825, while in the Susquehanna Valley, he was given a green stone by one Jack Belcher, a diviner and salt digger.
	www.lds-mormon.com /seerstn.shtml (751 words)

	Translation or Divination? Eyewitness testimony - Joseph uses occultic seer stone to produce Book of Mormon (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		They tell a similar story of Joseph dropping a magical seer stone into his hat, then burying his face in the hat and proceeding to dictate the Book of Mormon.
		Indeed, in 1826, four years before the publication of the Book of Mormon, Joseph was arrested, jailed, and examined in court in Bainbridge, New York on the charge of being "a disorderly person and an impostor" in connection with his use of a peep stone to search for buried treasure.
		of locating and translating the gold plates, he was simply trying to legitimize his use of an occult "seer stone" by carrying it over to a religious context.
	www.caic.org.au /lds/clairvoy.htm (2702 words)

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