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	Sethianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Commonly, the Sethian cosmogonic myth describes an intended prologue to the events of Genesis and the rest of the Pentateuch, which by its emendation brings about a radical reinterpretation of the typical orthodox Jewish conception of creation, and the divine's relation to reality.
		Sethianism posits a transcendent hidden invisible God that is beyond ordinary description; much like Plato (see Parmenides) and Philo had also stated earlier in history but it is only possible to say what God isn't, and the experience of it remains something, again, in defiance of rational description.
		Gnosticism and Platonism: The Platonizing Sethian texts from Nag Hammadi in their Relation to Later Platonic Literature, John D Turner, ISBN 0-7914-1338-1.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Sethian (985 words)

	SETHIAN GNOSTICISM:
		As appropriated by Sethianism and the Gnostics in general, Sophia is a hypostatized form of Hokmah (i.e., the divine Wisdom of Proverbs 8, job 28, Sirach 24) and is regarded as a female deity, perhaps also connected with the Spirit that moved over the water in Gen 1:2-3.
		In particular, the Sethian baptismal water was understood to be of a celestial nature, a Living Water identical with light or enlightenment, and the rite itself must have been understood as a ritual of cultic ascent involving enlightenment and therefore salvation.
		It may be that the Sethians' gradual shift away from their original communal baptismal context, interpreted by means of a rich history of their primordial origins and salvation, towards the more ethereal ancl individualistic practice of visionary ascent contributed to the event lal decay and diffusion of those who identified with the Sethian traditions.
	jdt.unl.edu /lithist.html (11081 words)

	Impure
		Gnosticism was a wide-ranging religious movement of the first millennium ce?with earlier antecedents and later flourishings?whose adherents sought salvation through knowledge and personal religious experience.
		For example, some gnostic texts suggest that god should be celebrated as both mother and father, and the self-knowledge is the supreme path to the divine.
		After a dry introduction to current debates about gnosticism (by Meyer) and a luminous, marvelously literary introduction to issues of translation (by Barnstone), the bulk of the text is taken up with primary sources, which are drawn from three continents and span an astonishing 13 centuries.
	web.whittier.edu /barnstone/GNOSTICBIBLE.htm (735 words)

	New age / gnostic
		Gnosticism is a historical term for various mystical initiatory religions, sects and knowledge schools which were most active in the first few centuries of the Christian/Common Era, around the Mediterranean and extending into central Asia.
		Gnosticism, therefore, is but one of many ancient traditions which are dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge, and which supply disciplinary systems that are supposed to aid in such a pursuit.
		It was with the Council of Nicaea in 325 (convened during the reign of the Emperor Constantine; 272–337) and the 3rd Synod of Carthage in 397, which progressively cemented Christianity as the officially sanctioned religion of the Roman Empire, that a structurally coherent and crystallized form of orthodox Christianity began to emerge.
	www.new-age-guide.com /new_age/gnostic.htm (7116 words)

	The Holy Order of O:N:E:
		In terms of application to the lifeways of their hypothetical Sethian Gnostic users, it appears that some treatises may have been aids to a form of worship, whether individual or communal (especially the baptismal rite), while others were directed primarily toward indoctrination.
		The corpus of Sethian Gnostic treatises from Nag Hammadi can be bifurcated into two main groups precisely in view of their use of various schemes to represent the process by which enlightenment and salvation is achieved.
		The second group, which I call "Sethites" (in distinction from Gnostic Sethians), conceived of revelation as deriving from certain ancient records containing the sacred history of the enlightenment of their primordial ancestors, records of which had been brought to light by a recent reappearance of Seth, the original and chief recipient of this revelation.
	essenes.net /typosethian.html (10599 words)

	Is the Gospel of Judas Gospel? - In Focus - Azusa Pacific University
		Gnosticism posed a particular threat to early traditional Christianity because it made knowledge the means to achieve salvation instead of the substitutionary atonement of Christ’s death on the cross.
		The generation of Seth in gnostic writings signified those born of the new generation of humanity after the tragic death of Abel and the banishment of Cain.
		For Sethian gnostics, Jesus was a teacher, “not a savior who dies for the sins of the world.
	www.apu.edu /infocus/2006/08/judas (1358 words)

	The Sethians - LDS doctrines of the Pre-existance contained in Ancient Egyptian Documents - Ancient Mormon Doctrine ... (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
		Sethian Gnosticism is now the earliest form of Gnosticism for which we possess a great deal of textual evidence, according to Turner.
		The Sethian texts are older and therefore of much greater interest to those of us who hunt for near-first-century Christian doctrines that could indicate some of the restoration doctrine of the present that were present at that time.
		The true Christian is the gnostic whose earthly life is patterned on the love and unity existent in the celestial church (61,28-62,27)." The insertions in parenthesis in Gibbon's text refer to the lines of the original text he is translating.
	www.einarerickson.com /content/view/11/38 (2092 words)

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		The initial Sethian rapprochement with Christian ideas, ranging between positive in the case of the Apocryphon of John, the Hypostasis of the Archons, and Melchizedek, and more polemical in the case of the Trimorphic Protennoia and the Gospel of the Egyptians, and perhaps neutral in the Apocalypse of Adam, may have proved a liability.
		In Greek and Gnostic sources, the ascending soul is as a rule thought to be consubstantial with the object of vision according as these sources reflect the notion of the analogy between the microcosmos (= highest part of the visionary's soul) and the macrocosmos (the highest level of the cosmos).
		The Gnostic descent and ascent scheme is distinguished by the motif of the redeemed redeemer, according to which the upper macrocosmic soul becomes the redeemer of the lower microcosmic soul by awaking the latter from the sleep of incarnation so as to release it for its ascent to its origin.
	jdt.unl.edu /lavalpap.htm (12402 words)

	Carl Pfendner
		Furthermore Corrigan suggests that Plotinus not only attempts to refute the Gnostic negative view on matter with his own line of reasoning that leads to positively derived physical existence, but his own viewpoint is influenced by the pre-existence of this group and its negative view on matter.
		The explicit relevance of the paper to the subject of Gnosticism is quite limited as the author concentrates on Neoplatonic texts and interpretation all the way through but its implicit relevance to the Gnosticism is clear to even those with a relatively small understanding of the subject.
		Plotinus’ opinion on the Gnostic interpretation of this connectedness is that because the essence of connectedness and aseity exists here already, it would be folly to ignore this and concentrate only upon a savior figure that is an incomplete representation of the connectedness and independence inherent in the cosmos.
	ccat.sas.upenn.edu /rs/rak/courses/535/reviews/Turner-CP.htm (2730 words)

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		She answers some critics who question that the document is Sethian Gnostic, and presents arguments to make her case.
		In general, Sethians are thought to be Jewish Gnostics independent (at least in their beginning) from the Christian tradition.
		It retells the Gnostic myth of the descent of the pre-existent Redeemer.
	www.globalserve.net /~yuku/trimorph.htm (1585 words)

	Gospel of Judas: Question of authorship (Detering) and Ireneaus on the Cainites : inTerjeCted (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
		The role of Jesus in Sethian Gnosticism is of a specific, often considered to be the last - manifestation of the Saviour whose prototype is a heavenly being or Aeon who are generically called Geradamas, Pigeradamas, Adamas or even Seth.
		What is also typical of the Sethian Gnostic presentation of the Christian Christ (rather than Messiah) or Platonic Logos is that it, unlike most Judeo-Christian groups of the late antiquity, take explicit exception to all Jewish or Hebrew prefigurations of the Messiah itself.
		This sounds like, to this Gnostic, really tedious work, repeating every action mechanically along the spectrum, just to rule out the possibility, perhaps, that one omits to do an action in a certain lifespan only to be forced to perform it in another.
	www.gizmoland.org /terje/archives/001092.html (1101 words)

	The Sethian Gnostics (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
		The term "Sethian Gnostics" is a modern one; and some scholars have even suggested this is a totally artificial classification.
		But it is apparent that a number of Nag Hammadi texts do share a great deal in common as regards their cosmology and terminology, so for the sake of convenience we can refer to these as "Sethian".
		The Sethians are so-called because, naturally, they hold the biblical character of Seth up as a savior-figure.
	www.kheper.net /topics/Gnosticism/Sethian.htm (490 words)

	The Gnostic Savior (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
		In Gnosticism then, Christ is not a blood-sacrifice figure who has to be tortured and executed to atone for man's guilt and sin, but rather a messenger of saving Knowledge, very much like the Buddha who taught the way to Enlightenment and Nirvana.
		While in another Sethian tractate, it is the eschatological high priest and messianic warrior Melchizedek who takes on the role of Jesus Christ.
		So the basic feature of Sethian Gnosticism is the theology "of Seth as a heavenly redeemer, who can manifest himself in a variety of earthly incarnations, such as Zostrianos, Zoroaster, Melchizedek, Jesus Christ, etc" [Birger A. Pearson, "The Figure of Seth in Gnostic Literature", (in B. Layton, ed.,
	www.kheper.net /topics/Gnosticism/savior.html (668 words)

	Gnosticism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Gnosticism is a term created by modern scholars to describe a diverse religious movement often associated with the rise of Christianity, although textual evidence for the movement contains distinctly non- and anti-Christian elements, as well as anti-Judaic elements.
		The close connection between Gnostics and the Mystery religions of the classical world, attested by ancient sources and affirmed by some scholars such as G. Mead, suggests that Gnostics would have called themselves telestai, "those who are aimed," consistent with their involvement in the pagan Mysteries.
		In a pagan revision of Gnosticism, the goddess Sophia figures as the central divinity, by contrast to the Judeo-Christian father god and his son, the messiah.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Gnosticism (8200 words)

	Gnosticism (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
		For first time a rich and diverse collection of gnostic texts, spanning 13 centuries, have been brought together in a single volume in The Gnostic Bible, in translations that allow the spirit of the original texts to shine.
		These are organized into various schools of Gnostic tradition: Sethian, Valentinian, Syrian, Hermetic, Mandaean, Manichaean, and relatively late Islamic and Cathar texts.
		The Gnostic Bible may well be the most comprehensive collection of Gnostic materials ever gathered in one volume, making this a valuable resource for students and scholars.
	www.sirreadalot.org /bible/gnosticismR.htm (237 words)

	Amazon.com: The Gnostic Bible: Gnostic Texts of Mystical Wisdom form the Ancient and Medieval Worlds: Books: Willis ... (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
		I have heard of the gnostic teachings over the years, but never realized that they were so widespread nor so diverse.
		The gnostic principle of the individual's ability to achieve direct union with God without the intermediaries of church hierarchy has run like an underground aquifer through the centuries.
		I read this entire volume through from front to back when I had just began studing Gnosticism and had a hard time comprehending it.Some of the writings are hard to understand with out a full understanding of what the writer was trying to teach.
	www.amazon.com /Gnostic-Bible-Mystical-Ancient-Medieval/dp/1570622426 (2032 words)

	Dark Mirrors of Heaven - Gnostic Cosmogony
		The Gnostic churches were trying to explain that there was far more to Jesus' teaching than what is found in the canonical gospels or from the letters of the apostles.
		It was for this difference between Gnosticism and the Roman churches at the time that led the Gnostics to be branded as heretic in their writing and teaching, and this was followed by the destruction of all Gnostic writings by the fourth century AD.
		One of the most interesting things about the Gnostic texts is the roles of feminine principles and women, particularly Barbelo and Sophia, and then Eve, Norea, the Virgin Mary and Mary Magdalene.
	www.timelessmyths.com /mirrors/gnostic.php (3723 words)

	Order of Nazorean Essenes
		THE WHEEL BROKEN AT THE CISTERN The Divergence of Orthodox Christianity from Gnosticism.
		Typologies of the Sethian Gnostic Treatises by John Turner
		Ptolemy's Commentary on the Gospel of John - Discusses the Gnostic Aeon ramifications of the Gospel prologue.
	essenes.net /bnei4.htm (1368 words)

	Amazon.ca: The Gnostic Bible: Books: Willis Barnstone,Marvin Meyer (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
		Even though technology has advanced immeasurably since these Gospels were written, at least 1,800 years ago, one area that these ancients seems to have possessed that is timeless is their Philosophy, thoughts, and ideas which seem to be quite advanced in many ways even compared to us today 1,800 years later.
		But the title is deceiving as the book is in fact not a Bible at all, it is just a collection of disorganizaed poetry and documents, none of which seem to form a story or a biblical narrative.
		The Gnostics and Gnosticism was a very important movement in the first centuries after Christ and this 'Bible' does not do them justice.
	www.amazon.ca /Gnostic-Bible-Willis-Barnstone/dp/1590301994 (1476 words)

	AS SCRIPTURE
		Thus the gnostic material showed different "slants" of understanding, depending upon the point of view of the gnostic author, SIMILAR TO WHY the writings of the New Testament, for instance, seemingly have the same story but with varied details, dependent upon the "purpose" of its author, and what "audience" the material was presented to(Jewish-Roman-Greek,etc.,).
		According to the author, the gnostics were influenced by the PLATONIC school as to the interpretation of the myth of creation...where the Greek thought also felt that humans had the "capacity" to attain knowledge; GNOSIS, PER SE = THE ACQUAINTANCE WITH KNOWLEDGE.
		PART OF THE GNOSTIC TALE: Yaltabaoth "stole" the power from his mother and it must be retrieved.
	hey_223.tripod.com /thegnosticelephantascompiledbybyronlebeau/id3.html (2475 words)

	Sethian Gnosticism and the Platonic Tradition (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
		No less than eleven of the fifty-three treatises of the Nag Hammadi Library fit the designation 'Sethian Gnostic'.
		With its own roots in second temple Judaism and in various first and second century sectarian baptismal movements, Sethian Gnosticism is now the earliest form of Gnosticism for which we possess a great deal of textual evidence.
		These treatises have profound implications for understanding the origins of Neoplatonism, including its theory of dynamic emanationism, certain aspects of Plotinus' thought, and the Middle Platonic interpretation of Plato's dialogues, especially the Parmenides.
	www.peeters-leuven.be /boekoverz.asp?nr=7327 (112 words)

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