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  Ship of Theseus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Ship of Theseus is a replacement paradox also known as Theseus's paradox.
The Ship of Theseus, in a limited sense, could be described as the same ship, because the formal cause, or design, does not change, even though the matter used to construct it may vary with time.
The Efficient Cause is how and by whom a thing is made, for example, how artisans fabricate and assemble something; in the case of the Ship of Theseus, the workers who built the ship in the first place could have used the same tools and techniques to replace the planks in the ship.
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 Theseus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Theseus (Greek Θησεύς) was a legendary king of Athens, son of Aegeus (or of Poseidon) and of Aethra.
Theseus was a founder-hero, like Perseus, Cadmus or Heracles, all of whom battled and overcame foes that were identified with an archaic religious and social order.
Theseus chose Helen and together they kidnapped her, intending to keep her until she was old enough to marry.
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 Ship of Theseus
The story of the Ship of Theseus is meant to highlight some basic problems regarding the identity of objects and their persistence through time.
Now suppose that, unbeknownst to Theseus and his crew, there had been a man collecting all the old parts of the original Ship of Theseus (the ship as it was on Day 1).
Similarly, if the Ship of Theseus were to have suddenly exploded and been annihilated, there is a sense in which all of its parts would still persist yet we would not say that the ship persists.
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 Andreas Teuber: Theseus's Ship
Theseus' Ship might be long forgotten but for the fact that philosophers have taken no small pleasure in thinking about its identity over time as an example of how perplexing or problematic the re-identification of a thing can become.
His ship received a kind of notoriety by association, you might say, and each and every year when a festival was held which included "A Parade of Ships," Theseus would join the parade and stand tall on its fore-deck and wave to the crowd lining the shore, hailed as the man who slew the Minotaur.
Theseus Ship is linked by a succession of spatio-temporal events from the time Theseus himself set sail for Crete to this day, many years later when it is (again) on parade at the Annual Festival of Ships.
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 The Ship Of Theseus Problem   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-04)
The question is then posed as to whether or not the ship in the harbor is in fact the ship of Theseus.
The question is, "Which of the two numerically distinct ships is the ship of Theseus?" It would seem that we could justifiably choose either of them.
On the one hand, the ship in the harbor, the renovated ship, gained the identity of the original ship as it came into being.
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 Theseus - The Athenian Adventurer   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-04)
Theseus preferred to let his father discover by himself that he had a son, so when the meat was set on the table, Theseus casually pulled out his sword as if he were going to cut the meat with it.
Theseus was aware of this discontent, so he offered himself as one of the victims, not just as a participant in the lottery.
Theseus obtained the cooperation of the more powerful by promising the end of monarchy, and the institution of a democracy, in which the king would be no more than the commander-in-chief and protector of the laws.
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 Theseus
Theseus had agreed with his father that the white sail would mean that the hero was successful in his adventure, while the fl sail indicated he had died in Crete.
Theseus wanted to marry the young Helen of Sparta, sister of the heroes Castor and Polydeuces, who were known as the Dioscuri.
Theseus was only rescued because Heracles arrived to perform his last labour for his cousin Eurystheus, to fetch Cerberus from the Underworld.
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 Identity and change - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Ship of Theseus problem is a question that is not receivable because of the mismatch between the domain of the question and the domain of the subject matter it is applied to.
The Ship of Theseus problem is an example of such an inconsistency created by the use of the question of identity proper to the ontology of domain A, applied to the subject matter of domain B, our reality.
The question about the identity of the Ship of Theseus is simply not receivable and comes from the poor practice of not respecting the proper correspondence of the question domain to the subject matter domain.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Identity_and_change   (3607 words)

  
 The Ship of Theseus   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-04)
Theseus anticipated this and he brought with him a complete supply of new parts to make repairs on his voyage.
Ship C = The ship that is built from the original parts that Theseus threw overboard.
Ship A = Ship B (and not C) Ship A = Ship C (and not B) Ship A = Both Ship B and C. Ship A = Neither Ship B or C
www.unc.edu /~theis/uncg/theseus.html   (392 words)

  
 Theseus' Ship   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-04)
Theseus is famous in Greek mythology as the slayer of the Minotaur, a half-man, half-bull monster who lived in the Labyrinth in the island of Crete.
According to Plutarch, the ship in which Theseus sailed back to Athens was preserved for many generations, its old planks being replaced by new ones as they decayed.
By this reasoning (which is the same as in the sorites paradox), it would be Theseus' ship even after all planks are replaced.
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 Theseus' Ship
Theseus is remembered in Greek mythology as the slayer of the Minotaur.
Suppose, though, that each of the planks removed from Theseus' ship was restored, and that these planks were then recombined to once again form a ship.
Again, a strong case can be made for saying that it would have been: this ship would have had precisely the same parts as Theseus' ship, arranged in precisely the same way.
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 Identity, Persistence, and the Ship of Theseus
On this account, we still have two ships, but their identity and non-identity relations are different: one ship (A) was sailed out by Theseus and (B) sailed in by Theseus, and another one (C) was created (out of used parts) during the voyage and was sailed into port by the Scavenger.
Suppose the ship (A) is in a museum, and a clever ring of thieves is trying to steal the ship by removing its pieces one at a time and then reassembling them.
There is a ship, B, that is in the museum (made of all new materials), and there is a ship, C, in the possession of the thieves (the original pieces of A now reassembled).
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 Theseus
Theseus is the most famous of the legendary kings of Athens, the Attic hero par execellence, the counterpart of the Dorian Heracles (Isocrates' Helen, 23-26).
Theseus and his companions had vowed to Apollo that, were they to return home alive, they would send an annual mission to Delos in thanksgiving.
So, when Theseus came back from Hades, he found that he was no longer welcome there and, unable to recapture his throne, left for the island of Skyros, where he died, or was assassinated by the king of the place (see Aristotle's Constitution of the Athenians, fr.
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 Mind: Same-kind coincidence and the ship of Theseus
If "ship" works like a disjunctive predicate, picking out anything that is either a form-constant ship or a matter-constant ship, it will turn out that different ships can occupy the same place at the same time--but again the different ships will be different kinds of ships.
If on the other hand "ship" is a referentially indeterminate predicate of the sort discussed by Field, then a statement about ships will be true if it is true for every partial extension of "ship", false if it is false for every partial extension of "ship", and neither true nor false otherwise.
The trouble with supposing that "ship" (determinately) denotes both form-constant ships and matter-constant ships is that we end up with too many ships.
www.findarticles.com /p/articles/mi_m2346/is_n421_v106/ai_19793600/pg_5   (300 words)

  
 V83.0010 Central Problems in Philosophy
Theseus was an Athenian hero who sailed to Crete, defeated the Minotaur, rescued some Athenian captives, and sailed them back to Athens.
They thought that the ship they had been carefully repairing all of these years was the Ship of Theseus.
One view about the Ship of Theseus is that there is no answer yet to the question which ship is identical to the original ship.
www.jimpryor.net /teaching/courses/intro/notes/personal-id.html   (1644 words)

  
 Campbell ||| Rednecks and Remakes   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-04)
Students are asked to decide whether the ship with the completely replaced planks is the same ship that left the dock.
Sooner or later they are forced to claim one of two things: either the ship was a different entity as soon as one plank was changed or an inherent quality maintained in the ship throughout the various changes and ensured the stability of its identity.
Change the puzzle so that the ship is instead a person, and all of her familiar “planks” of identity are up for debate as defining characteristics, and so are the rights to ethical subjectivity that they typically convey.
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 EnciclopedyHMS Theseus (1892) -   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-04)
This HMS Theseus was part of a nine ship class of protected cruisers known as the Edgar-class and were basically smaller versions of the Blake-class.
She was a tender ship to HMS Cambridge from 1905 to 1913.
Theseus was rearmed, along with bulges to her hull, which were added to enable her to take part in the Dardanelles Campaign.
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 Philosophy of the Mind: The Ship of Theseus   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-04)
My answer to this was that Yes, it would still be the original Ship of Theseus even after the hundred days, at which point none of the original planks would be present.
Even the hundredth plank, which is being added to none of the original planks, is still part of the original, because all of the new planks which had been ad ded over time, had been part of the original boat.
My answer to this one was no. It may be a Ship of Theseus, but it isn't the original.
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 THESEUS   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-04)
Theseus, their son, grew up in his mother’s palace, not knowing who his father was.
So she told the king that Theseus was planning to dethrone him and declare himself king, and she persuaded Aegeus to poison Theseus at the banquet.
Theseus pulled out his father’s sword, laid it on the table, and raised the poisoned drink to his lips.
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 Ship of Theseus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-04)
The Ship of Theseus is a replacement paradox also known as Theseus' Paradox.
There is also an additional question: if the replaced parts were stored in a warehouse and later used to reconstruct the ship, which--if either--would be the original ship of Theseus?
A similar story is told about George Washington's axe, with which the young George Washington is supposed, in an apocryphal story, to have cut down his father's cherry tree.
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 Ship of Theseus: Facts and details from Encyclopedia Topic   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-04)
The Ship of Theseus is a replacement paradox paradox quick summary:
A paradox is an apparently true statement or group of statements that seems to lead to a contradiction or to a situation that defies intuition, such as "this...
Theseus (θησευς) was a legendary king of athens, son of aegeus (or of poseidon)....
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 The Paradox Of Theseus’ Ship :: Forums :: The Infidel Guy Show :: Taking a Critical Look At What We Believe - Audio, ...   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-04)
Now, if one plank of his ship is removed, then that plank ceases to be part of his ship, for ownership has been relinquished.
Maybe it belonged to his brother...but the thing that makes the ship worthy of note is that it is the ship that Theseus sailed.
The ship is now no longer "Theseus ship as it was when Theseus sailed in it", but it is still "The ship that Theseus sailed in".
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 ∴borishennig.de 2005: Formal Ontology, Documents, Temporal Parts, Identity
It is the actions in which the ship is involved that yield the relevant criteria of identity.
The ship, rather than a heap of planks, was used to sail to Crete.
Hence, the question about the ship of Theseus will more likely be answerable when it is connected to a question about the identity of an agent, e.g.
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 Ship Of Theseus
Ship Of Theseus is based upon the concepts of impermanence and identity.
The basic riddle of the "Ship of Theseus" is how much material can be replaced by copies until the original is no longer the original.
Ship Of Theseus uses this notion of the ghost ship and impermanence as a thematic link for the project.
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 Relative Identity
Plutarch reports that such a ship was "… a model for the philosophers with respect to the disputed arguments … some of them saying it remained the same, some of them saying it did not remain the same" (cf.
Both the restored ship and the reassembled one appear to qualify equally to be the original.
By NI, the restored ship and the original are identical in the actual world, contrary to the claim of the "best candidate" doctrine (which says that neither the remodeled nor the reassembled ship is the original).
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 Identity - tracking bodies
Visiting the museum on a regular basis to keep track of exactly whereabouts on Theseus' ship each discarded plank must have come from, they are able to put them back together again, exactly as they were before.
If you had kept the ship under constant surveillance you would have seen it maintain the same form continuously from Theseus sailing in it to its appearance in the museum many years later.
Perhaps: all the parts of the ship Theseus sailed in are in the rebuild.
www.lancs.ac.uk /depts/philosophy/courses/211/100identity1.htm   (3072 words)

  
 Theseus   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-04)
This ship is made of 100 boards, a sail, and a mast, and is called "The Ship of Theseus." A year goes by with the ship out to sea, when a single board of the ship's original 100 is replaced by brand new wood.
And so the ship sails on...Another year goes by with the ship out to sea, when another single board of the ship's original 99 is replaced by brand new wood.
In other words, either the shipmates do not need to be on the identical ship that they started out on for their claim "We are still on the dang Ship of Theseus" to be true, or being made up of all of the same parts, in exactly the same way, is not enough for identity.
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 Theseus   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-04)
As the ship bearing Theseus and his liberated fellow Athenians approached the promontory on which King Aegeus watched daily for his return, Theseus forgot the signal which he had prearranged with his father.
In the exultation of triumph, or in anguish over the loss of Ariadne, Theseus neglected to hoist a sail of a different hue, and King Aegeus threw himself from the heights in despair.
Theseus was now both king and bona fide hero, but this did not put an end to his adventuring.
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 Ship of Theseus - Theseus' Paradox
In the Ship of Theseus paradox, the nature of identity is examined.
The ship was well known and had 30 oars.
So nothing remained of the actual "original" ship - and yet the ship was still called Theseus' ship and considered to be the authentic original.
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