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	Southern Crescent Route
		So today it is simply The Crescent, a train which, in fact, has more in common with the former Southerner than with the former rCrescnet.
		In 1979 it was sort of merged with the Southerner, as noted above, and this train of combined identities was known as the Southern Crescent, a name which was meant to reflect each of the former trains.
		As an addendum to Tom Underwood's paragraph, the "Southern Crescent" was the result of the combining of "The Crescent" and "The Southerner" in early 1970.
	www.greenspun.com /bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001xbk

	The Silver Comet Trail
		For example, a typical schedule (effective December 15, 1964): The Comet departed New York at 11:00 am, Washington at 3:20 PM, Raleigh at 9:10 pm It picked up the cars from Portsmouth, VA, Train No. 17, departing there at 4:15 PM and arriving Raleigh at 8:30pm where the dining car from Portsmouth was dropped.
		The Silver Comet carried the Jacksonville cars as far as Hamlet, NC where the secondary train, the Sunland, took over for the overnight run to Jacksonville, with no food service.
		The Silver Comet was a direct competitor with Southern Railway's Southerner.
	silvercomet.tripod.com /whistory.html

	The Southern Crescent A History of Good Service
		The train was consolidated with the "Southerner" and renamed the "Southern Crescent." The train offers dining car service between Washington and New Orleans and reserved reclining seat coaches and sleeping cars between New York and New Orleans.
		Today's "Southern Crescent" is the lineal descendant of the "Washington and Southwestern Vestibuled Limited," inaugurated in January, 1891, by the Richmond and Danville Railroad along the "Piedmont Air Line Route." This Washington-Atlanta train was soon nicknamed the "Vestibule" because it was the first all-year train with vestibuled equipment operating in the South.
		After July of 1926, the "Crescent Limited" was pulled between Atlanta and Washington by Southern's new green and gold heavy Pacific locomotives, each decorated with a gold crescent on the cylinder and the train's name emblazoned on the tender.
	southern.railfan.net /ties/1972/72-7/cres.html

	Southern Crescent Passenger cars
		That was when the streamlined Crescent and the streamlined Southerner were merged into one train.
		When Amtrak took the train over in 1979 the name "Southern" was dropped and it became known simply as the Crescent.
		The original Crescent,(called the Crescent Limited) 1926, was a heavyweight train and I suppose some of the cars could be found in the books listed above.
	www.greenspun.com /bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001xbo

	NZOOM - ONE News - National
		Invercargill Mayor Tim Shadbolt says his council simply did not have enough time to organise funding for a proposed subsidy of the Southerner passenger train service.
		The Otago Regional Council says a lack of financial commitment from local councils has forced it to abandon a subsidy deal that would have seen an Australian company operating the Southerner passenger train.
		Shadbolt says the timetable for coming up with the money was simply too tight.
	onenews.nzoom.com /onenews_detail/0,1227,53253-1-7,00.html (356 words)

	NZOOM - ONE News - National
		Invercargill Mayor Tim Shadbolt has welcomed the government lifeline thrown to the threatened Southerner train service.
		The Southerner was due to stop running next month, but the government has confirmed it is prepared to put money in to help keep the train service going until the end of February.
		Shadbolt says that will give more time to look at options for rail travel in the south and the reprieve has come at a good time.
	onenews.nzoom.com /onenews_detail/0,1227,57624-1-7,00.html (233 words)

	Crescent (Amtrak) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		The train was also rerouted southwest of Atlanta, Georgia, following what had been the route of the Southerner rather than the Southern Crescent (which used Atlanta and West Point Railroad, Western Railway of Alabama and Louisville and Nashville Railroad trackage past Atlanta, running via Mobile, Alabama).
		The Crescent is a passenger train operated by Amtrak in the eastern part of the United States.
		Before Amtrak took over the route, a train called the Southern Crescent was operated by the Southern Railway, a predecessor of Norfolk Southern, from Washington, DC's Union Station south to New Orleans.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Crescent_(Amtrak) (496 words)

	My Trip to Australia and New Zealand
		The pictures in this section are from our adventures at Qantas' domestic terminal in Sydney, the Southerner train from Christchurch to Dunedin, New Zealand, and our bus trip from Pukerangi (terminal of the Taieri Gorge Railway) to Queenstown, New Zealand.
		This train line was formerly used for both freight and passengers, but had been hurt badly when roads were built in the area 30 years ago.
		It was a gorgeous, sunny, but not too hot day, and I really enjoyed our day there.
	www.dgolds.com /oldsite/AustraliaNZ/AustraliaNZ.htm (496 words)

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		Southerner, Train 47, New York to New Orleans, arriving N.O., Mar 18, 1947 SOU 2802 E-6A SOU 705 Bedford Bag-dorm-coach SOU 806 Huntsville Coach SOU 804 Georgia Coach SOU 3302 Virginia Diner SOU 801 Maryland Coach SOU 808 Sheffield Coach SOU 1102 Louisiana tavern Lounge Observation car More later if you want.
		These are from Robert Wayner's book "Passenger Train Consists 1923-1973".
		40, Atlanta to New York, departing Atlanta Jan 13, 1948 SOU 2914 E7A SOU 2915 E7A PRR 6288 bag.
	www.hosam.com /srr/srr.html (3259 words)

	The Silver Comet Trail
		The Silver Comet carried the Jacksonville cars as far as Hamlet, NC where the secondary train, the Sunland, took over for the overnight run to Jacksonville, with no food service.
		The Silver Comet was a direct competitor with Southern Railway's Southerner.
		For example, a typical schedule (effective December 15, 1964): The Comet departed New York at 11:00 am, Washington at 3:20 PM, Raleigh at 9:10 pm It picked up the cars from Portsmouth, VA, Train No. 17, departing there at 4:15 PM and arriving Raleigh at 8:30pm where the dining car from Portsmouth was dropped.
	silvercomet.tripod.com /whistory.html (3259 words)

	UP-Photo Gallery: Missouri Pacific
		Missouri Pacific Mail Express and passenger train, The Southerner, circa 1946, just north of Main Street viaduct in North Little Rock.
		Louis Union Station train caller announcing arrivals and departures (size 115K)
		The images are from the Union Pacific Railroad archives.
	www.uprr.com /aboutup/photos/missouripacific (145 words)

	Southerner Rail Passenger Service: Viability Study - 3. Service Options
		The trade-off for a less frequent service is that costs are lower, but some of the passengers will switch to other modes, rather than re-schedule their travel to fit the train timetable.
		Current cost structures for all train operation, passenger service, sales and track services.
		There are several options for a passenger service, with various combinations of destinations served, service frequency, and rolling stock used.
	www.med.govt.nz /irdev/reg_dev/southerner/southerner-02.html (145 words)

	RailServe.com Links: Australian Passenger Railways, Trams & Transit
		West Coast Railway - Passenger train services between Melbourne and Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia
		The Southerner - The Southerner Express traveled between Christchurch, Dunedin, and Invercargill for over 30 years until 2002
		History of Western Australian Railways and Stations - Photos and history of WA railways and stations
	www.railserve.com /Passenger/Australia (145 words)

	Bluewater coaches BMCX 829 and 832
		They were used in service throughout the southeastern United States in such trains as the "Crescent," the "Southerner" and the "Piedmont" until 1979, when they were sold to Amtrak (which took over most American intercity passenger train services in 1971).
		In 2000, Bluewater began an effort to renovate the seats in the 829, 832, and sister coach 857.
		Coaches 829 and 832 are constructed of stainless steel and weigh about 63 tons each.
	www.bluewaternrhs.com /829832.html (195 words)

	Bluewater coaches BMCX 829 and 832
		They were used in service throughout the southeastern United States in such trains as the "Crescent," the "Southerner" and the "Piedmont" until 1979, when they were sold to Amtrak (which took over most American intercity passenger train services in 1971).
		In 2000, Bluewater began an effort to renovate the seats in the 829, 832, and sister coach 857.
		Coaches 829 and 832 are constructed of stainless steel and weigh about 63 tons each.
	www.bluewaternrhs.com /829832.html (195 words)

	NZ by Rail - The Southerner
		The Southerner trains run daily between Christchurch and Invercargill, the southernmost passenger railway station in the world.
		Note: The southbound Southerner connects at Dunedin with The Taieri Gorge Limited and connecting bus service to Queenstown.
		Whether or not extra time is spent in Dunedin, a through ticket can be purchased for travel on the Southerner and to or from Queenstown.
	byrail.wellington.net.nz /southerner.html (195 words)

	Ormondville Rail Preservation Group Inc - Southerner train service
		One of the options included keeping the ticketing of the Southerner and running coaches under the railway name until the problem was sorted out.
		His Melbourne-based group still wanted to operate the loss-making Southerner, which runs between Christchurch and Invercargill, but he was not prepared to take any criticism from Mr Shadbolt.
		However, he wanted a resolution to the Southerner funding issue quickly otherwise the company would have to make alternative arrangements.
	www.geocities.com /ormondvillerail/bayex/southerner.html (195 words)

	Southerner Items
		Vintage Southern RR Railroad Southerner Train Map No Re How Speak Like A Southerner/Fox
		1987 Southerner yearbook of U. of S. Mississippi
		The Southerner (1985) $3.49 VHS JEAN RENOIR MINT!
	www.beckersurfshop.com /southerner.html (195 words)

	The Southerner - Photos
		The Northbound Southerner with a DX Loco meets W 192 and her train in Ashburton, 25th November 2000
		A northbound Southerner at Timaru in Dec 88
		The trains ran in this state for a few months while the cars were upgraded and repainted in the dark blue as seen in the above shot.
	www.trainweb.org /thesoutherner/photos.html (195 words)

	STSC CrossTalk - Win the Battle, Lose the War - Apr 2006
		The battle signaled the end of a valorous Confederate presence along the Rio Grande in the War of Northern Aggression (I AM a Southerner and a Texas AandM grad – it was either put this in or get tarred and feathered at my next family or class reunion).
		However, as the battle raged around Pigeon’s Ranch, a small group of Union forces were dispatched to find and destroy the Confederate supply train.
		The Battle of Glorieta Pass itself was fought from March 26-28, 1862 (the Battle of Gettysburg also took three days).
	www.stsc.hill.af.mil /crosstalk/2006/04/0604BackTalk.html (1079 words)

	The Roads Must Roll!: Archive Entry From Brad DeLong's Webjournal
		Finally, one must remember that it took a long time to get the Interstate system built; as one who was in the late 1960s a young southerner going to school in New England, I can attest to the numerous gaps that remained in the system at that time.
		Thanks to the new road network and containers that could easily be moved from ship to train to truck, overseas manufacturers and domestic upstarts were able to get their products to market in the U.S. more quickly than ever before.
		The conflicting constituencies are the suburban drivers that use the roads get to their city jobs and don't want to spend a dime on transit, and the city dwellers that are starving for transit and don't want to waste a dime on highways.
	www.j-bradford-delong.net /movable_type/2004_archives/000151.html (2469 words)

	THAT BECAME - REVIEW
		Tim Blake Nelson brings a real poignancy to the character, nicely balanced by Arquette, as the younger brother who suddenly finds himself irresistible to women, and doesn't seem to understand it's because he's offering them a ticket on the Yankee gravy train.
		Nelson does a minor variation on the twangy, down-home Southerner routine he's perfected in movies like "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" and "Holes." Director Schleppi keeps the audience at a distance from the characters; there's no sense of what's going on inside their heads and hearts.
		When their doting old mother passes away in the night, the brothers' biggest concern (aside from the burial of course) is finding a new woman to take care of them.
	www.aforeignaffair.net /movie/thatbecame/media.shtml (2037 words)

	Bull Run by Paul Fleischman (Ages 10 up)
		There is Toby Boyce who declares: “I was eleven years old and desperate to kill a Yankee before the supply ran out.” Virgil Peavy left Mississippi by train sure that the war was as good as won.
		In this extraordinary, powerful book, Fleischman creates sixteen individual voices — Northerner, Southerner, young, old, slave, free black, white, man, woman, General, foot soldier, nurse, fife player.
	www.lilypadbooks.com /scstore/p-BullRun.html (2037 words)

	New Zealand Democratic Party Inc.
		At a Branch Meeting of the North Otago Branch of the NZ Democratic Party held today in Oamaru, members called for the ‘Southerner’ train to be reinstated
		New Zealanders who care about the workings of our legal system should be deeply concerned that one of our most knowledgeable writers about mental health issues is undergoing what amounts to a secret trial in order to suppress her most recent book, "Broken Silence", an account of the legal processes surrounding a sexual abuse case.
		Following the Democratic Party’s Annual Conference held in Christchurch during the weekend, the Leader Stephnie de Ruyter expressed her delight at the numbers attending, the harmony displayed in discussing policy and direction and the renewed commitment to the reforming foundation on which the party stands.
	www.democrats.org.nz /assets/pressReleases/pressReleases.asp (3060 words)

	Rod to ride on Tim's train - Green Party
		Green Party co-leader Rod Donald will join Invercargill Mayor Tim Shadbolt in a day trip on the threatened Southerner train tomorrow.
		"When Tim asked me to match him by under writing this venture for $1000 I thought I'd better put my money where my mouth is. With all the trains now full I'll only have to buy my own ticket," Rod Donald said.
		Mr Shadbolt invited people to make the excursion and show they are interested in rail travel before Monday's meeting with the new owners West Coast Railways in Dunedin.
	www.greens.org.nz /searchdocs/PR4518.html (211 words)

	The Press (Canterbury, New Zealand): Daytrippers use Southerner while they still can@ HighBeam Research
		The excursions, an idea of Invercargill Mayor Tim Shadbolt, were just as popular on Saturday when the Southerner carried daytrippers from Invercargill to Edendale and return.
		The train was full to the brim for each of its four return trips to Bluff yesterday.
	www.highbeam.com /library/doc0.asp?DOCID=1P1:46983630&refid=ip_almanac_hf (203 words)

	Ormondville Rail Preservation Group Inc - Southerner train service
		Comments last night from Invercargill Mayor Tim Shadbolt have antagonised Don Gibson, the chairman of West Coast Railways, the company being asked to save the Southerner passenger rail service.
		Figures released by Environment Southland showed about the $1.5 million of public money was needed to prop up the Southerner in its first year of operation under private enterprise.
		Mr Shadbolt said he was willing to consider the subsidy funding but said the local authorities were being asked to come up with about $600,000 on the "flimsiest of business cases" and an "impossibly short timetable."
	www.geocities.com /ormondvillerail/bayex/southerner.html (769 words)

	Michael Park - As the World Turns - Soap Opera Digest and Weekly
		During the case to nab rogue cop Teague, Jack disguised himself as a Southerner and charmed an unwitting Carly.
		What tune was Jack singing when he met Julia Lindsey on a train to Chicago?
		Jack's childhood crush on this character was rekindled when he first moved to Oakdale.
	www.soapoperadigest.com /features/atwt/2004/jackquiz (462 words)

	Pindall Family History
		The town of Pindall, Arkansas was named for X.O. Apparently, when the train conductor called out the town name of "Kilburn" people often mistook it for "Gilbert," so the name was changed to Pindall, who was acting governor at the time.
		“Col. Pindall came to Monroe county from Virginia, and was a typical Southerner in every respect; frank, openhearted, gallant and hospitable, and a natural born soldier.
		His siblings were Xenophon Jacob (X.J.), Addeliza Rachel, Sarah Rebecca, Shelby Ethelbert (who died from scarlet fever in 1844, at the age of 2), and Hannah Emily.
	www.rootsweb.com /~momonroe/pindallhistory.htm (997 words)

	PPE - Working Class Encyclopedia I2
		Asbestos was used in passenger carriages like on the Southerner train, as well as used as lagging around steam pipes and boilers for workshop heating.
		These passengers were kept in steerage compartments - sort of barracks accommodation and only allowed on deck for fresh air at certain times.
		The paying wealthy passengers were issued with their own cabins, while the assisted immigrants or steerage passengers lived in barrack-style arrangements below decks.
	www.embassy.org.nz /encycl/i2encyc.htm (997 words)

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