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  Tanistry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tanistry (Scottish Gaelic: Tànaisteachd) was a custom among various Celtic tribes, by which the king or chief of the clan was chosen from among the heads of the septs, or alternatively among all males of the clan in question, and elected by them in full assembly.
Tanistry as the system of succession left the headship open to the ambitious, and was a frequent source of strife both in families and between the clans, but was conversely quasi-democratic.
Tanistry was abolished by a legal decision in the reign of James VI and the English land system substituted.
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 Tanistry -- Facts, Info, and Encyclopedia article   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
Tanistry, though not intended basically to be such, was perceived to be synonymous with balance between branches of family.
He was primogeniturally seen from a cadet branch of the old royal descent, and thus (Right of inheritance belongs exclusively to the eldest son) primogeniture would not have favored him, but idea of rotation (and his seniority in physical age) made him a credible competitor.
Tanistry as the system of succession left the headship open to the ambitious, and was a frequent source of strife both in families and between the clans.
www.absoluteastronomy.com /encyclopedia/t/ta/tanistry.htm   (278 words)

  
 clan mullarkey tanistry
Fron the Seangus Mór and legal structure of land holding, we understand that the basic unit in ancient Ireland was not the nuclear family but the Sept, a body of families and their servants all connected by blood relationship.
Tanistry and the clan rituals surrounding it continued without change, despite intervention by English monarchs, until the reign of Henry II.
Similar forces in Scotland resulted in the abolition of Tanistry by a legal decision in the reign of James I (1406-37) and the English system of primogeniture substituted.
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 Tanistry   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
Tanistry (from Gaelic tana, lordship), acustom among various Celtic tribes, by which the king or chief of the clan was chosen fromamong the heads of the septs and elected by them in full assembly.
The rules of succession of the dynasty of Alpin of kings ofScotlands abided the tanistry rules until 1034.
He held office for life and was required by custom to be of full age, in possession of all his faculties and without anyremarkable blemish of mind or body.
www.therfcc.org /tanistry-214634.html   (252 words)

  
 'Since Time Immemorial: A Story of Common Law' - [2002] MULR 3; (2002) 26 Melbourne University Law Review 15
Tanistry was the name given by contemporary English observers to the practice under which Irish succession devolved through the male line (agnatic descendants of a common grandfather) to the most worthy male member of the extended kin group.
However, the Case of Tanistry demonstrates that, as with copyhold, the court was not purporting to enforce the law of an alternative jurisdiction, particularly as the case proceeded on the legal assumption that so-called brehon law had been extinguished.
It may be obvious to state that simply because the common law had declined to recognise tanistry, that is, to accommodate or find a legal source for it within the framework of the common law, this did not result in the instant demise of the legal space of so-called brehon law.
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 Practical Application of Gaelic Irish Tanistic Succession
The Irish mode of succession is tanistry, a concept that the English conquerors tried very hard to suppress, offering Irish princes English Earldoms governed by primogeniture in exchange ("Surrender & Re-grant") for abdication of their ancient royal and princely ranks governed by the old Gaelic form of salic tanistry.
In early lineages, where no record of the application of tanistry survives, it may be impossible to learn whether a Chiefly line descends from an eldest or a younger son.
During a presumed dormancy, lacking any evidence of 'derbhfine' objection or of continued private application of tanistry, we may consider the nearest traceable male-line from a former Chief to represent an "implied 'derbhfine' selection" (my term) for purposes of revival of a Chiefship, as with those "Courtesy Recognitions" of the Irish Genealogical Office.
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 Kenneth III of Scotland   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
Kenneth was the last king of Scotland to succeed to the throne through the system of tanistry, whereby the succession was shared between two family lines and the dying king named the person from the other family line who was to succeed him.
The system was much discredited as it ensured the two royal families of Scotland were in a constant state of war with each other.
It was his first cousin Malcolm, succeeding him at the battle, who abolished the tanistry system by killing all of Kenneth's male descendants.
www.1-free-software.com /en/wikipedia/k/ke/kenneth_iii_of_scotland.html   (207 words)

  
 Tanistry   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
Gaelic was brought to Scotland by the Scots of Dalriada.
Under the system known as tanistry any mature male of Royal blood could become king if he was considered to be the most suitable by the righ or earls of Scotland.
Unfortunately, from the six year old James II onwards a period of unrest developed as the nobles fought to control child kings.
www.fife-education.org.uk /socsub/SocialSubjects/Scottish_History/Royalty/DidYouKnow/tanistry.htm   (347 words)

  
 *This article appeared in the Mizen Journal, no
By the time it had reached the Privy Council, the dispute was already decades old, and it was to continue in various forms until 1601, leaving behind it a legacy of bitterness and betrayal.
Tanistry was the Irish form of succession, and unlike the English system of primogeniture, whereby the eldest son inherited all the land and power from his father, the Irish practice was to pass power, at least in theory, to the fittest adult relation in the chief's family.
This could be a brother, son, uncle, or nephew, the only restriction being that the claimant had to share a common ancestry with the previous chieftain that could be traced back at least three generations.
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 TANISTRY   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
In Ireland, a tenure of family lands by which the proprietor had only a life estate, to which he was admitted by election.
"TANISTRY" is a common misspelling or typo for: dentistry, transitory.
"TANISTRY" is used about 2 times out of a sample of 100 million words spoken or written in English.
www.websters-online-dictionary.org /Ta/Tanistry.html   (679 words)

  
 The Tanistry of Aldyn
The Tanistry of Aldyn is a tribal nation slowly transforming into a traditional feudal kingdom.
Located in the pleasant and comfortable Vale of Carmin in the Jora Mountains, the Tanistry is experiencing some growing pains as the six-clann nation gradually give up their power and individual rights in exchange for the security of a central authority.
The Tanistry of Aldyn lags slightly behind many of its civilized neighbors in terms of technology, though it is far ahead of its immediate tribal enemies.
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 Scotland History Tanistry and the Scots right of succession   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
Even then, it was only used in terms of royal succession, whilst other lordships continued to be inherited by the former system.
The Tanist, under the system of Tanistry, was the heir presumptive and his right to the throne was not conferred by the father but by the mother.
Matrilineal succession was typical of Pictish society and this by no means an uncommon practice, whether royal of commoner succession.
www.scotlandforvisitors.co.uk /history/tanistry.php   (227 words)

  
 Robert the Bruce Murders John Comyn   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
It is a well-known fact that the system of tanistry used during the reign of the House of Dunkeld was complicated in itself.
Tanistry was a Celtic system whereby a chieftain's successor was chosen by election while he was still alive.
He chose John Balliol by way of primogeniture over Robert de Brus "The Bruce" who was the main claimant by virtue of tanistry.
www.tartans.com /articles/comynjmurder.html   (884 words)

  
 Irish Chiefswatch
Tanistry, whereby a chief's successor was appointed by a derbfine, or male descendants of a common great-grandfather, was in fact a political process largely outside Brehon Law (Fergus Kelly, A Guide to Early Irish Law, Dublin 1988, page 26).
Tanistry was alternately suppressed and exploited to create divisions by the English, and following the collapse of the Gaelic order in the early seventeenth century, the small number of families maintaining chiefships turned to male primogeniture or succession of the eldest son.
The Irish mode of succession is tanistry, a concept that the English conquerors tried very hard to suppress, offering Irish princes English Earldoms governed by primogeniture in exchange ("Surrender and Re-grant") for abdication of their ancient royal and princely ranks governed by the old Gaelic form of Salic tanistry.
homepage.eircom.net /~seanjmurphy/chiefs/chiefswatch.htm   (1140 words)

  
 THE TRANSITION FROM PICTLAND TO ALBA TO SCOTLAND
It is also obvious that Hector had little knowledge of the manner of succession by tanistry as a remnant of the matrilineal Pictish society.
"'Tanistry', or succession by cousinage, meant that there was always an adult king on the throne, and no problem of royal minorities.
She was instrumental in the suppression of Gaelic and the substitution of Saxon as the court language.
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 Famous Scots - King MacBeth   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
Viking marauders still threatened from their base in the outer islands and Scottish politics was marked by internal strife punctuated by the all too frequent murder of Kings and their potential heirs.
The mayhem was largely due to the ancient practise of choosing Scottish kings called tanistry (or thanistry as in thane).
Under tanistry, succession was not strictly heriditary: rather, noblemen chose kings from a large pool of potential kings called tanists - any one of whom may have a legitimate claim to the throne through ancestry or marriage.
www.tartans.com /articles/famscots/macbethking.html   (680 words)

  
 [No title]   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
By the rule of tanistry, one man among that group was chosen to head the family: he who was strongest, toughest and most cunning.
This principle became an invitation to violent conflict, and the question was often settled by a trial of strength and cunning.
By the rule of tanistry, families, clans and even kingdoms gained strong leaders who were able to protect them....
xroads.virginia.edu /~ug97/albion/aelders.html   (353 words)

  
 wer-weiss-was | "tanistry auf deutsch" | aus Forum Fremdsprachen
tanistry auf deutsch (L i v i a, 12.10.2004 15:02)
Re^2: tanistry auf deutsch (L i v i a, 12.10.2004 15:12)
Tanistry auch, bestenfalls als "Tanaistenamt", "Tanaistenwürde", obwohl auch dies nicht unbedingt wiedergibt, dass zu dem Amt ja auch Besitz und Macht gehört.
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 Idiocentrism
All the adult males of the tribe, without regard for seniority or closeness of relationship to the deceased, were eligible to succeed him.
Temujin’s killing of Bekter was just the first in a series of tanistry fights by which he gained control of an increasingly large number of kin.
Once tanistry is recognized as a sometimes-normal succession practice, many of the horrible family murders and bloody succession struggles in civilized history can be reclassified as a latent secondary forms, rather than as monstruous and unthinkable abominations.)
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It is true that, in society based on kinship, each family separated from the rest tends itself to expand into a joint family or sept; but in these severed estates custom would be apt to be enfeebled and to abate something of its tyranny.
But the necessity of having a military leader in the vigour of his physical and mental powers is much too imperious to admit of his choice being invariably deferred to the death of the ruling Chief, or to allow of the election falling universally or even generally on his son.
The most natural object of this respect is he who most directly derives his blood from the last ruler, and thus the eldest son, even though a minor, comes to be preferred in the succession to his uncle; and, in default of sons, the succession may even devolve on a woman.
www.ecn.bris.ac.uk /het/maine/lect07   (6120 words)

  
 Tanistry - Encyclopedia, History, Geography and Biography
Tanistry (from Gaelic tana, lordship) was a custom among various Celtic tribes, by which the king or chief of the clan was chosen from among the heads of the septs, or alternatively among all males of the clan in question, and elected by them in full assembly.
This page was last modified 02:02, 27 Apr 2005.
The article about Tanistry contains information related to Tanistry and Reference.
www.arikah.net /encyclopedia/Tanistry   (540 words)

  
 Irish Chiefs
The derbfine was composed of the male descendants of a common great-grandfather, and its choice was not limited to the eldest son of a serving Chief, although of course he could be and not infrequently was selected to succeed his father.
While primogeniture generally made for smoother succession, Tanistry could be a cause of instability and conflict, as different power groups within the derbfine struggled for ascendancy.
MacLysaght rightly considered that Tanistry, which as we have seen is selection of Chiefs by the derbfine or kin group, was no longer a practical system after a lapse of so many centuries.
www.electricscotland.com /familytree/magazine/febmar2004/irish_chiefs.htm   (2346 words)

  
 [No title]   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
Until,*br*however, this last point has been reached, all the modes of*br*re-division known to us are plainly referable to the same*br*principle.*br* The difficulty suggested by the recital in the 'Case of*br*Gavelkind' is thus not a difficulty in believing it if it stood*br*by itself, or if it were made with less generality.
But the necessity of having a military leader in the*br*vigour of his physical and mental powers is much too imperious to*br*admit of his choice being invariably deferred to the death of the*br*ruling Chief, or to allow of the election falling universally or*br*even generally on his son.
The*br*most natural object of this respect is he who most directly*br*derives his blood from the last ruler, and thus the eldest son,*br*even though a minor, comes to be preferred in the succession to*br*his uncle; and, in default of sons, the succession may even*br*devolve on a woman.
www.summerlands.com /crossroads/scripts/clann/messages/130.txt   (2490 words)

  
 [No title]   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
At the beginning of the*br*seventeenth century the Anglo-Irish Judges declared the English*br*Common Law to be in force throughout Ireland, and from the date*br*of this decision all land in the country descended to the eldest*br*son of the last owner, unless its devolution was otherwise*br*determined by settlement or will.
In Sir John Davis's report of*br*the case and of the arguments before the Court, it is recited*br*that hitherto all land in Ireland had descended either under the*br*rule of Tanistry or under the rules of Gavelkind.
The Judges treated both Tanistry and Gavelkind*br*as systems of succession after death, of a peculiarly barbarous*br*and mischievous kind; and, as systems of succession, I shall*br*consider them hereafter.
www.summerlands.com /crossroads/scripts/cairdean/messages/117.txt   (1221 words)

  
 Tanistry   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
Tanistry (tana gaélico, lordship), un costumbre entre las varias tribus célticas, las cuales eligió entre de los jefes de los septs y fue elegido al rey o al jefe del clan por ellos en asamblea completa.
Las reglas de la sucesión de la dinastía de Alpin de reyes de Escocia habitaron las reglas tanistry hasta 1034.
Tanistry fue suprimido por una decisión legal en el reinado de James I y el sistema inglés de la tierra substituyó.
www.yotor.net /wiki/es/ta/Tanistry.htm   (310 words)

  
 [No title]   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
At the beginning of the seventeenth century the Anglo-Irish Judges declared the English Common Law to be in force throughout Ireland, and from the date of this decision all land in the country descended to the eldest son of the last owner, unless its devolution was otherwise determined by settlement or will.
In Sir John Davis's report of the case and of the arguments before the Court, it is recited that hitherto all land in Ireland had descended either under the rule of Tanistry or under the rules of Gavelkind.
The Judges treated both Tanistry and Gavelkind as systems of succession after death, of a peculiarly barbarous and mischievous kind; and, as systems of succession, I shall consider them hereafter.
socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca /~econ/ugcm/3ll3/maine/lect04   (2986 words)

  
 donald i   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
He established an ancient corpus of laws and rights (known as the laws of Aed, or Aedh) that apparently included the custom of tanistry.
During Donald's reign, his nephew, Constantine I, was chosen to succeed him following his death.
The custom of tanistry lasted until the reign of Malcolm II.
www.yourencyclopedia.net /Donald_I.html   (223 words)

  
 TANISTRY (from Gaelic Lana, lordship) - Encyclopedia Britannica - TANISTRY (from Gaelic Lana, lordship) - JCSM's Study ...   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
TANISTRY (from Gaelic Lana, lordship) - Encyclopedia Britannica - TANISTRY (from Gaelic Lana, lordship) - JCSM's Study Center
TANISTRY (from Gaelic Lana, lordship), a custom among various Celtic tribes, by which the king or
Tanistry was abolished by a legal decision in the reign of James I. and the
www.jcsm.org /StudyCenter/Encyclopedia_Britannica/SUS_TAV/TANISTRY_from_Gaelic_Lana_lord.html   (407 words)

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