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	Thallus (historian) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Thallus was a chronologer/historian who flourished in the period from the middle of the 1st century to the late 2nd century.
		Thallus is sometimes cited for details on Syrian and Assyrian history and is identified by Eusebius of Caesarea in his Chronicle as the author of a brief compendium covering the years from the fall of Troy (1184 BC) to the 167th Olympiad (109 BC).
		Thallus makes mention of Belus, the King of the Assyrians, and Cronus the Titan; and says that Belus, with the Titans, made war against Zeus and his compeers, who are called gods.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Thallus_(historian) (567 words)

	Ebon Musings: Choking on the Camel
		To be of any value, the historian must not just say that Christians believe in the divinity of someone called Jesus; they must bear their own witness to the fact that there actually was such a person who actually did the things he was claimed to have done.
		Since these historians cannot bear their own witness to the truth of the things they write, they must instead be relying on earlier sources, and it is those sources which should be cited whenever possible.
		He was a respected Jewish historian who worked for the Romans under the patronage of Emperor Vespasian; born around 37 CE, he is also the closest to the time of Jesus of all the historians cited by apologists.
	www.ebonmusings.org /atheism/camel2.html (4865 words)

	Thallus (historian): Encyclopedia topic (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		Thallus was a chronologer/historian (historian: A person who is an authority on history and who studies it and writes about it) who flourished in the period from the middle of the 1st century (1st century: (1st century bc - 1st century - 2nd century - other centuries)...
		Thallus is first mentioned around AD 180 (180: more facts about this subject) by Theophilus (Theophilus: theophilus, patriarch of antioch (eusebius ecclesiastical history iv....
		Thallus makes mention of Belus (Belus: belus or belos in classical greek or classical latin languagelatin texts (and...
	www.absoluteastronomy.com /reference/thallus_historian (446 words)

	Thallus: an Analysis
		Nevertheless, Thallus is cited at least as a witness to the early date of the gospel story of the darkness, if not to the factuality of the darkness itself.
		The usual argument is that Thallus is the earliest witness to the gospel tradition, proving that the story was circulating, and taken seriously enough by pagans to debunk it, before the 2nd century.
		For Thallus may have simply recorded an eclipse that occurred around the time that Christ was believed to have died, with Africanus connecting the events on his own.
	www.infidels.org /library/modern/richard_carrier/thallus.html (3903 words)

	Thallus the Samaritan - darkness without an eclipse? (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		Thallus (circa AD 52) wrote a history about the middle east from the time of the Trojan War to his own time.
		This darkness Thallus, in the third book of his History, calls, as it appears to me without reason, an eclipse of the sun.
		For the Hebrews celebrate the passover on the 14th day according to the moon, and the passion of our Savior falls on the day before the passover; but an eclipse of the sun takes place only when the moon comes under the sun.
	www.neverthirsty.org /pp/hist/thallus.html (262 words)

	List of historians - Simple English Wikipedia
		Frances Fitzgerald, American journalist and historian, author of the influential Fire in the Lake: The Vietnamese and Americans in Vietnam.
		Richard Hofstadter, (1916--1970), American political historian, intellectual historian, author of The American Political Tradition: And the Men Who Made It, The Age of Reform, and Anti-Intellectualism in American Life.
		Cornelius Ryan, American historian, World War II George Sarton, (1884-1956), history of science, The Study of the History of Science.
	simple.wikipedia.org /wiki/List_of_historians (1101 words)

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		Carrier then mentions that the supposition that Thallus must have written his compendium shortly after the final date covered by the compendium, but this is not necessarily the case since Eusebius, for instance, wrote a world chronicle that ended about 30 years before he wrote it.
		Now there was one Thallus, a freedman of Caesar's of whom he borrowed a million of dracmae, and thence repaid Antonia the debt he owed her; and by spending the overplus in paying his court to Caius, became a person of great authority with him.
		Also, Carrier seemingly is implying that Thallus did not document the darkening of the sun as a historical event, but rather as a response to the Christian claim that the darkness is historical.
	www.tektonics.org /qt/thallcomp.html (8773 words)

	Thallus
		Thallus, a Samaritan-born historian who lived and worked in Rome about A.D. 52, quoted by Julius Africanus, a Christian chronographer of the late second century,
		"Thallus, in the third book of his histories, explains away this darkness as an eclipse of the sun.
		The historicity of Christ is as axiomatic for an unbiased historian
	mywebpages.comcast.net /thebibleway/cfthl-00.htm (856 words)

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		Here are a few: Tacitus (55 - 120 AD) Tacitus, a Roman historian, wrote about the famous fire of Rome which happened in 64 AD and of Nero’s attempts to blame the Christians for what he had done himself: “Nero...
		Africanus writes that Thallus commented on the crucifixion of Jesus and the accompanying earthquakes and darkness (as recorded in other eyewitness accounts of the Bible — Matthew 27: 51, Mark 15: 33 and Luke 23: 44, 45).
		Thallus explained the darkness as an eclipse of the sun, but Africanus rejected this view on the basis that there would have been a full moon at the time of the Passover.
	oiccu.publication.org.uk /files/Explore_supp.doc (750 words)

	List of historians - LearnThis.Info Enclyclopedia (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		Fa-Hien, Chinese Buddhist monk and historian, author of A Record of Buddhistic Kingdoms: Being an Account by the Chinese Monk Fa-Hein of his Travels in India and Ceylon (399–414), In Search of the Buddhist Books of Discipline.
		Michael Beschloss, (born 1955) American historian and celebrity intellectual, history of the U.S. presidency.
		Richard Hofstadter, (1916–1970), American political historian, intellectual historian, author of The American Political Tradition: And the Men Who Made It, The Age of Reform, and Anti-Intellectualism in American Life.
	encyclopedia.learnthis.info /l/li/list_of_historians.html (1141 words)

	The Great Questions of Life
		Thallus wrote a history of the eastern Mediterranean world in AD 52.
		Phlegon records that, in the time of Tiberius Caesar, at full moon, there was a full eclipse of the sun from the sixth hour to the ninth--manifestly that one of which we speak.
		Thallus notes there was darkness at the time of the crucifixion, and attributes it to an eclipse.
	www.ici.edu /gql/historical.html (1231 words)

	Was Jesus a Real Person or a Myth? (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		The first evidence comes from one Thallus, a Samaritan, who wrote as a Roman historian in Rome about 52 A. His original writings are lost but quotes found in other’s writings are in existence.
		Thallus wrote to discredit the darkness that occurred during Jesus’ crucifixion crediting it to an eclipse.
		Tactitus, a Roman historian, wrote in his Annals that Nero blamed Christians for the burning of Rome.
	members.aol.com /warnersccc/032402.htm (513 words)

	Quote: Originally posted by brahmabull on Theology Web
		FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS was a Jewish historian who became commander of the Jewish forces in Galilee in AD 66, just after the time of Jesus.
		THALLUS was one of the first Gentile historians to mention Christ.
		Also like Thallus he mentions the darkness at the crucifixion of Jesus saying "an eclipse of the sun occurred during the full moon".
	sol.sci.uop.edu /~jfalward/HistorianList.htm (1105 words)

	Thallus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Look up thallus in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
		Thallus (tissue), an undifferentiated vegetative tissue (without specialization of function) of some non-mobile organisms, which were previously known as the thallophytes.
		Thallus (historian), a chronologer/historian occasionally mentioned in the works of early Christian writers.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Thallus (115 words)

	histJesus
		Historians of his own day would have written volumes about him." Of course they also add that there are no official records of his existence, no birth certificate and so on.
		The historicity of Christ is asaxiomatic for an unbiased historian as the historicity of Julius Caesar.
		German historian, Adolf Harnack (1851-1930), declared that Jesus was so imposing that He was "far beyond the power of men to invent" and that those who treat Him as a myth are bereft of "the capacity to distinguish between fiction and the documentary evidence..." (as quoted by Harrison, p.
	www.geocities.com /metagetics/HistoricalJesus1.html (10839 words)

	bibleteacher.org: New Testament Documents by FF Bruce Contents Page
		The first Gentile writer who concerns us seems to be one called Thallus, who about AD 52 wrote a work tracing the history of Greece and its relations with Asia from the Trojan War to his own day.
		The greatest Roman historian in the days of the Empire was Cornelius Tacitus, who was born between AD 52 and 54 and wrote the history of Rome under the emperors.
		The historicity of Christ is as axiomatic for an unbiased historian as the historicity of Julius Caesar.
	www.bibleteacher.org /ffbchp10.htm (1702 words)

	Proof of Jesus outside the bible - Unexplained Mysteries Discussion Forums
		It should also be known that Luke was a first-class historian and the rest of the disciples had nothing to gain by writing the accounts of Jesus and everything to lose.
		Thallus, the Samaritan-born historian - One of the first Gentile writers who mentions Christ is Thallus, who wrote in A.D. However, his writings have disappeared and we only know of them from fragments cited by other writers.
		Thallus is by no means an accepted source since Thallus (the historical Thallus) wrote around 2nd century BCE (at least that’s when his world history ends).
	www.unexplained-mysteries.com /forum/index.php?showtopic=39332 (2863 words)

	Historical Jesus III:C and D: Thyalls and Phlegon.First century historians credit darkness at noon.
		Though the writings of Thallus are lost to us, Julius Africanus, a Christian chronographer of the late second century, was familiar with them and quotes from them.
		The force of the reference to Thallus is that the circumstances of Jesus' death were known and discussed in the Imperial City as early as the middle of the first century.
		The darkness at the crucifixion, as we see from Thallus, defied natural explanation, and had the character of a miracle; and this is precisely the sort of event that Pliny would pass over in disdain - for he was a skeptic and a rationalist of the highest order!
	www.geocities.com /metacrock2000/Jesus_pages/HistJesus5.htm (1575 words)

	xxx church :: the prayer wall - Historical Evidence for Jesus (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		Thallus is first referenced in 180AD and hisd mention of the darkness during Christ's death is only made circa 900AD.
		Another second century historian that is automatically disqualified due to his late authoriship.
		Yeah, the fact that no 1st century historical references to Jesus is strong evidence that the folklore needed to be developed before historians bothered to make note of the claims.
	www.xxxchurch.com /forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14570 (2189 words)

	Extra biblical accounts of Jesus
		Following is a list of extra biblical (outside of the Bible) references of biblical events, places, etc. The list is not exhaustive but is very representative of what is available.
		Thallus wrote a history of the Eastern Mediterranean world from the Trojan War to his own time.
		Note that Julius Africanus draws the conclusion that Thallus' mentioning of the eclipse was describing the one at Jesus' crucifixion.
	www.carm.org /bible/extrabiblical_accounts.htm (954 words)

	Archaeology and the New Testament
		Each of the men had died a brutal death which historians believe was the result of their involvement in the Jewish revolt against Rome in 70 A.D. The inscription identified one individual as Yohan Ben Ha'galgol.
		Historian Thallus wrote in 52 A.D. Although none of his texts remain, his work is cited by Julius Africanus' work, Chronography.
		Historians date the inscription to 52 A.D. which corresponds to the time of the apostle's stay in 51.
	www.biblicalarcheology.net /Bible/ArchaeologyAndNewTestament.html (2583 words)

	Thallus question and the non-historicity of Jesus' resurrection miracles (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		One obscure author, Thallus, quoted (accurately or selectively and with interpretation) by another obscure author, Africanus, who is then quoted by Eusebius, the 3rd or 4th century church historian who admitted he only recorded things which would add glory to the church, and not publish things that might detract from that glory.
		If such a miracle as darkness over all the earth for several hours happened, it appears that Mark's Gospel recorded it first and it was simply copied verbatim by the other two Gospel writers who copied most of their Gospels from Mark.
		The article in Newsweek's Easter issue, March 28th, 2005, "From Jesus to Christ," doesn't address questions that many theologians and historians continue to ask, it just lumps together the Gospels stories and cites some conservative spokespersons, and claims that Christianity "had" to have begun with a miracle.
	www.edwardtbabinski.us /skepticism/thallus.html (632 words)

	The Crucifixion Darkness (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		It seems very unreasonable to me that Thallus, in the third book of his histories, would try to explain away this darkness as an eclipse of the sun.
		Another first century historian who also mentions this darkness was Phlegon who wrote a history entitled the "Olympiads.
		Julius Africanus mentioned a quote taken from the Olympiads which said: "Phlegon records that, in the time of Tiberius Caesar, at full moon, there was a full eclipse of the sun from the sixth hour to the ninth.
	www.biblehistory.net /Chap9.htm (305 words)

	othertimelines.com Message Board -> Timeline 605- Roman Record of Jesus
		He is recorded by a Jewish historian, who worked for the Roman empire by the name of "Josephus", note Josephus was not a follower of Jesus, so it is interesting to have this factual record, recorded in official Roman history..
		A.D. Thallus was a Samaritan-born historian whose writings have not survived to the present day.
		Tacitus records that Nero shifted the blame for the burning of Rome from himself to the Christians: Hence to suppress the rumor, he falsely charged with guilt, and punished with the most exquisite tortures, the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities.
	www.othertimelines.com /msgboard/index.php?showtopic=557 (3163 words)

	Thallus and Phlegon [Archive] - IIDB (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		Checking up on Thallus and Phlegon, I still find many apologists who think these two are independent evidence of Jesus.
		The two sources are Thallus (quoted by Julius Africanus in about 220 AD) who wrote a history of the Eastern Mediterranean in about 50 AD.
		We do not have Thallus' writings, all we have is the comments of 3rd C. Julius Aficanus, as preserved in the 9th C. George Syncellus.
	www.iidb.org /vbb/archive/index.php/t-43100.html (1169 words)

	iqexpand.com (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		Plumb, (1911–2001), British historian of the 18th century.
		Sheila Rowbotham, (born 1943) Feminist and Socialist historian, author of Women, Resistance and Revolution (1972).
		This is a list of historians (of both Indian and foreign origin) who studied the history of India, that we (the Kamats) were fortunate to interact with, or whose works we have studied, and not...
	list_of_historians.iqexpand.com (1737 words)

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