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	The Good War
		The Torah is full of war -- to rescue Lot from the kings who have captured him, to fight off the attacking Amalekites, to conquer and govern the land of Israel -- each with a different though justifiable motive, all with the Almighty's permission, some in response to His commands.
		I've listened to many people (ad nauseum) argue the virtues of the war versus Iraq -- all of whom would send their sons to Canada or rabbinic school (perhaps an unlooked-for side benefit!) were they to be drafted.
		I think that the difference in answers to the questions: "Should we fight a war against Iraq" and "Would you send your son to fight in Iraq" is not because of an immoral stance of the answerer.
	www.aish.com /family/momblog/The_Good_War.asp (1571 words)

	Return of the good war (Site not responding. Last check: )
		In the Gulf (a less obviously good war since the protection of civilians, promotion of democracy and humanitarian aims were clearly not paramount) the West had used airpower to lay the basis for victory on the ground.
		The widespread perception that interstate war is in decline is not, therefore, an irreversible trend.
		War is the pursuit of policy by other means; but those means are inherently destructive of the most precious of all things, human lives.
	www.sussex.ac.uk /Users/hafa3/goodwar.htm (4839 words)

	NDSU Magazine - Fall 2002: The good war?
		NDSU's World War II Reunion last August enabled alumni who were veterans of the war to share recollections of their experiences.
		Authors described it as "the good war" and the Americans who fought it as "the greatest generation." Many have attempted to explain its "meaning," not always successfully.
		The Cold War also spread to Asia with the victory of the Communists over the Nationalist government of China in 1949 and the outbreak of the Korean War the following year as well as Communist insurrections in various European colonies, most notably French Indochina.
	www.ndsu.nodak.edu /ndsu/news/magazine/vol03_issue01/good_war.shtml (888 words)

	Return of the good war (Site not responding. Last check: )
		In the Gulf (less obviously a 'good' war since the protection of civilians, promotion of democracy and humanitarian aims were clearly not paramount aims) the West had used airpower to lay the basis for victory on the ground.
		Half a century without major war (but still-strong memories of 1939-45), a series of military-technological revolutions, the development of rich, complacent societies with developed media and democratic institutions - all have compounded to an understandable reluctance to commit lives in battle, especially when 'national' interests are not perceived to be at stake.
		The West's avoidance of conflict during the war of Serbia and the KLA, from early 1998 to early 1999, meant that by the time it intervened, maybe two thousand people were already dead and a quarter of a million displaced.
	www.theglobalsite.ac.uk /press/104shaw.htm (4949 words)

	Buchanan, The Good War, and Ironclad Orthodoxies - by Joseph Stromberg
		The State thrives on war — unless, of course, it is defeated and crushed — expands on it, glories in it.
		Good manners are not on display, and Buchanan’s very character, moral judgment, and right to speak are under inquisition.
		The One Good War is their best showcase for the glories – and necessity – of eternal world-meddling.
	www.antiwar.com /stromberg/?articleid=3332 (1636 words)

	The Good War on Terror by Christopher Hayes
		During that period, the country was in the grip of a strange, prolonged obsession with World War II and the generation that had fought it.
		The pining for the glory days of the Good War has now been largely forgotten, but to sift through the cultural detritus of that era is to discover a deep longing for the kind of epic struggle the War on Terror would later provide.
		The war was difficult, yes, and bloody, but pure and just: a battle, not to put too fine a point on it, between good and evil.
	www.chrishayes.org /articles/the-good-war-on-terror (3278 words)

	Spinning Clio : Where History and Politics Meet: The Good War (Site not responding. Last check: )
		No, there are no good wars, but there are necessary wars, and this was surely one.
		Hayek believed that while intellectuals in modern liberal democracies—those to whom he somewhat contemptuously referred as the professional secondhand dealers in ideas—did not usually have direct access to power, the theories that they diffused among the population ultimately had a profound, even determining, influence upon their society.
		Hayek believed that the British intellectuals were being influenced by the experience of World War II in which British society was atypically united because of war.
	cliopolitical.blogspot.com /2005/05/good-war.html (502 words)

	WorkingForChange-Revisiting the good war
		The language of good and evil barely changed as the reasons for the war in Iraq changed.
		But those who recklessly embarked on this war skipped Vietnam with its heart of darkness and chose World War II instead as their upbeat model.
		There are wars that are forced on us and wars we rashly choose.
	www.workingforchange.com /article.cfm?itemid=16988 (780 words)

	Why Shouldn't We Question the Good War?
		When Great Britain and France declared war on Germany (it is easy to forget that Germany did not declare war on them first), the goal was to save the Polish people from Nazi tyranny.
		Not only had that war entailed a horrific waste of American lives, but contrary to President Wilson's hopes and dreams it had not turned out to be the war to end all wars and had not made the world safe for democracy.
		Perhaps worst of all, for the rest of the 20th century, America's involvement in World War II set America on a road of continual war and intervention in an endless quest for everlasting peace.
	www.fff.org /freedom/0100b.asp (719 words)

	BBC NEWS \| Europe \| The Sudeten Germans' forgotten fate
		As Czechoslovakia was liberated from the Nazis at the end of World War II, the population of the country took its revenge - not on the Nazis themselves, but on three million of their fellow citizens.
		It is arguable that the Sudeten Germans had some reason not to want to belong to a Czechoslovakia that, before the war, did not always treat them as equal citizens.
		Be that as it may, the Sudeten Germans found themselves squeezed between the Nazis who were false friends, the Czechoslovaks who wreaked disproportionate vengeance, and the victorious Allies who simply washed their hands.
	news.bbc.co.uk /2/hi/europe/3466233.stm (744 words)

	The Good War?
		And that once the war started, wherever the West and the USSR saw genuine peoples revolution taking place as a result of the struggle against the Germans, it was in the interests of both to suppress them.
		It was also the war and the period immediately before it, that shaped the outlook and attitudes of my parents’ generation and also of mine.
		Hence the need for war with its use of nationalism, patriotism, xenophobia and racism, all of which were utilised by the Western allies in order to turn worker against worker.
	www.williambowles.info /ini/ini-0125.html (2121 words)

	Dr. John C. Rao: The Good War and the Rite War
		The specifics of the war years and the struggles leading up to them are the stuff of regular reminders and admonitions used perhaps more than any other tool to explain and shape the flow of present-day political and social life.
		Still, the Second World War gains its force from another source as well, from its usefulness to Marxism-Leninism and Pluralism, the two ideologies emerging victorious out of the conflict, as a propaganda tool demonizing all of their opponents, whoever they might be, and thereby shoring up their already dominant position still further.
		Moreover, the Good War promoted Pluralists, who justified and praised the existence of a variety of different milieus and the validity of the messages that they all proclaimed, and Christian Democratic movements which always carried at least a germ of Lamennais’ influence in their train.
	jcrao.freeshell.org /TheGoodWar (2935 words)

	Studs Terkel : Conversations with America
		In The Good War Terkel presents the good, the bad, and the ugly memories of World War II from a perspective of forty years of after the events.
		Some women and African Americans experienced new freedoms in the post war society, but good life after World War II was tarnished by the threat of nuclear war.
		We see things in terms of that war, which in a sense was a good war.
	studsterkel.org /gwar.php (1552 words)

	The Good War and Those Who Refused to Fight It
		Yet 40,000 Americans refused to shoulder weapons in “the good war” because their consciences would not allow them to kill another human being.
		“THE GOOD WAR and Those Who Refused To Fight It” tells its story through the memories of several remarkable men who went against the tide of the most popular and justifiable war of the 20th century.
		Instead, they would stay in the camps for the duration of the war, some serving six years, and were not released until 1947, two years after the end of the war.
	www.peaceabbey.org /confcenter/goodwar.htm (2978 words)

	Film & TV: The Good War (Weekly Alibi . 04-13-98)
		Having run out of "good" wars, French director Bertrand Tavernier ('Round Midnight, Coup de Torchon) strays all the way back to World War I--when battle first lost its noble tint but gained a whole new level of juicy, floating morality.
		The French are fighting a sloppy trench war against crumbling German forces.
		Conan the war dog and Norbert the career officer are two opposite ends of the spectrum, but the winds of war have thrown them together as friends.
	weeklywire.com /ww/04-13-98/alibi_film2.html (599 words)

	Why 'the Good War' Wasn't So Good
		Those, we had been taught in schools, were good wars, in which America sacrificed many thousands of its own citizens and millions of lives in other countries to defend "freedom" from evil fascists, nasty Communists or inscrutable Shintoists.
		Pound tried to tell everyone that World War II was not an isolated event, and in his words we can hear the warnings that come down to us now in the echoes of Vietnam, Palestine, Afghanistan and Iraq.
		Pound said one of the major reasons for World War II was the manipulation of the press, particularly in the United States: "I naturally mistrust newspaper news from America," he declared.
	www.serendipity.li /iraqwar/ezra_pound.htm (1749 words)

	A Rumor of War by Philip Caputo (Site not responding. Last check: )
		There are also stories of the shameful imprisonment of loyal Americans because their ancestors came from Japan, the racial hatred against “Japs” and the atrocities that inevitably happen in war, including the firebombing of German and Japanese cities and the use of the atomic bombs against Japan.
		For most individuals, World War II was not a grand heroic adventure but a case of putting one foot in front of the other and surviving the day.
		One of Terkel’s greatest achievements has been to humanize the experience of World War II and to make it accessible to generations for whom it is at best a vague chapter in a history text.
	www.edheritage.org /HE_04win/review_good-war.html (639 words)

	Good War Myth: 60 Years is Enough
		It fought that war to end atrocities by participating in the shooting of surrendering soldiers, the starvation of POWs, the deliberate bombing of civilians, wiping out hospitals, strafing lifeboats, and in the Pacific boiling flesh off enemy skulls to make table ornaments for sweethearts.
		According to accepted history, it was an inevitable war forced upon a peaceful people thanks to a surprise attack by a sneaky enemy.
		Even if war is hell and the good guys sometimes lose their way, these vehicles teach us that there is still no reason to question either the morality of the mission or the stature of that particular generation.
	www.informationclearinghouse.info /article8815.htm (1313 words)

	Remembering the Good War
		World War II was the defining event for a generation of Americans.
		Remembering the Good War tells the stories of over one hundred Minnesotans—ordinary people who rose to duty at an extraordinary moment in our past.
		From the shock of the attack on Pearl Harbor to the excitement of recruits leaving the farm for the first time to the horrors of the battlefields of Europe, Africa, and the Pacific, Remembering the Good War pays homage to the generation of Minnesotans who were forever transformed by World War II.
	shop.mnhs.org /moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=623 (323 words)

	North America needs a good war. - Beastie Boys Message Board
		But as for this war, hell Im all for it.
		We have the war on terror which we will never win but are winning and will win.
		North America should have a civil war so we can finally beat Canada's ass.
	www.beastieboys.com /bbs/showthread.php?mode=hybrid&t=33845 (686 words)

	NSDL Metadata Record -- "The Good War"
		In addition, the people interviewed are both men and women, high ranking and low ranking, in different branches of the service, and many had very different war experiences.
		They tell their stories with candor, and together the recollections show how those men and women view the war in which they participated.
		In one of the the final sections, "Is You or Is You Not My Baby," both Japanese and American perspectives on the development and use of the atomic bomb are given.
	nsdl.org /mr/440977 (124 words)

	Lawrence Lessig
		The major civil liberties issue in World War II arose out of the internment of 120,000 individuals of Japanese descent, two-thirds of whom were American citizens, representing 90% of all American citizens of Japanese ancestry.
		During the war an additional 5,000 Japanese-Americans who renounced their U.S. citizenship and asked to be expatriated to fight for Japan were also interned by the DOJ.
		To sum up, Brian, times were tough for everybody during World War II but I can think of no group who has whined about their wartime experience more or has been treated better for it since then than the former resident Japanese enemy aliens and their families who were relocated from the war zones.
	www.lessig.org /blog/archives/002348.shtml (5002 words)

	PBS - THE GOOD WAR: American Pacifism
		World War I ushered in the first draft since the Civil War, and policies that were even less tolerant of conscientious objectors.
		Seventeen draft resisters died of mistreatment in Alcatraz Prison during World War I. Easter Walk for Peace converging on U.N. In World War II, a total of nearly 43,000 Americans refused to fight for reasons of conscience: 12,000 served in Civilian Public Service, 6,000 went to prison and 25,000 served in the military as noncombatants.
		Though the military is currently an all-volunteer organization, when the Gulf War broke out in 1991, 2,500 men and women volunteers serving in the Armed Forces refused to serve in Saudi Arabia on the basis of conscience.
	www.pbs.org /itvs/thegoodwar/american_pacifism.html (395 words)

	The Good War and Those Who Refused to Fight It \| Bullfrog Films
		GEORGE HOUSER was a founder of Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) with James Farmer and Bayard Rustin during the war.
		Bombies: The terrible aftermath of dropping cluster bombs during the secret air war in Laos and the international campaign to ban them.
		From Chechnya to Chernobyl: Fleeing the war in Chechnya, refugees have settled near Chernobyl.
	www.bullfrogfilms.com /catalog/gwar.html (781 words)

	Poets Against War
		Poets Against War continues the tradition of socially engaged poetry by creating venues for poetry as a voice against war, tyranny and oppression.
		Poets Against war is a volunteer organization dependent upon the financial contributions of friends and members.
		The 34-day war between Israel and Hezbollah ended in the summer of 2006, but hundreds of thousands of unexploded cluster munitions that Israel dropped on Lebanon are a terrible remnant of that war.
	www.poetsagainstthewar.org (867 words)

	America's Values War > The Good News : July/August 2002 (Site not responding. Last check: )
		The political ideology and culture wars of the last few decades have produced a wasteland of relativism.
		Patriotism, an attitude that was rare among many before the war on terrorism began, is infectious throughout the country.
		God demands good deeds from His children, but actions must come from our hearts—not because we use them to salve our consciences or as a badge of spirituality.
	www.gnmagazine.org /issues/gn41/valueswar.htm (1587 words)

	Free Democracy: Losing the Good War
		Afghanistan was supposed to be the good war — and the war America was winning.
		But because of the Bush administration’s inattention and mismanagement, even the good war is going wrong.
		The latest grim news is that after years of effort — and more than $1 billion spent — Afghanistan’s American-trained police force is unable to perform even routine law enforcement work.
	freedemocracy.blogspot.com /2006/12/losing-good-war.html (608 words)

	Floridian: Great flicks of the Good War
		Hollywood was a devoted ally in the World War II effort, from war bond tours and USO shows to the flag-waving propaganda created by filmmaking veterans such as John Ford and Darryl F. Zanuck.
		Like many war films of the era, this was rushed into production only weeks after the 1942 battle.
		Until the Vietnam War unceremoniously ended, Hollywood was comfortable using combat as a standard action movie engine.
	www.sptimes.com /2005/08/26/Floridian/Great_flicks_of_the_G.shtml (1184 words)

	The Good War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		The Good War is a telling of the oral history of World War II written by Studs Terkel.
		It is a firsthand account of people involved before, during and after the war, challenging the prevailing notion that World War II was a time of unblemished national solidarity, goodwill, and unified purpose in contrast to the Vietnam War era.
		Reflections on Machsismo - This section has an excerpt from Ted Allenby who is a columnist for Gay Life, a weekly newspaper.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/The_Good_War (220 words)

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