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  Trojan War, Greek Mythology Link.
On seeing him she thought that Protesilaus had returned from the war, and talked with him for three hours; but when her husband was carried back to the Underworld, she stabbed herself to death, not being able to endure him dying twice, or else she let herself burn together with her husband's image.
When the war had already lasted ten years, and no results could be seen, Calchas prophesied to the Achaeans that Troy could not be taken unless they had the Bow and Arrows of Heracles 1 fighting on their side.
Now, on his way to the Trojan War the army landed in Tenedos and there a snake bit Philoctetes, and as the wound did not heal and nobody could endure the stench, they put him ashore on the island of Lemnos, with the Bow and Arrows of Heracles 1, which he had in his possession.
homepage.mac.com /cparada/GML/TrojanWar.html   (7797 words)

  
 Just and Unjust War by Howard Zinn excerpted from the book Howard Zinn on War
Erasmus saw war as useful to governments, for it enabled them to enhance their power over their subjects: "...once war has been declared, then all the affairs of the State are at the mercy of the appetites of a few."
When it went to war in 431 BC against its rival power, the city-state of Sparta, the war seemed to be between a democratic society and a military dictatorship.
Next, the statesmen will invent cheap lies...and each man will be glad of these lies and will study them because they soothe his conscience; and thus he will bye and bye convince himself that the war is just and he will thank God for a better sleep he enjoys by his self-deception.
www.thirdworldtraveler.com /Zinn/Just_Unjust_War_HZOW.html   (13217 words)

  
 Troy
It pulses with the inevitability of war, and trembles with the impossibility of victory.
The story of the Trojan War from Homer to Virgil and beyond has lent itself to many literary and theoretical reworkings -- its tragedies symbolic, its characters iconic.
If it takes liberties with the timing of events and character details, it does so, for the most part, without betraying their essence.
www.cinescene.com /shari/troy.htm   (860 words)

  
 Rethinking Schools Online - Suggesting Readings for Teachers and Students
In all the solemn statements by self-important politicians and newspaper columnists about a coming war against Iraq, and even in the troubled comments by some who are opposed to the war, there is something missing.
What is missing is what an American war on Iraq will do to tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of ordinary human beings who are not concerned with geopolitics and military strategy, and who just want their children to live, to grow up.
Or they will be stricken with some strange and agonizing sickness that could lead to their bringing deformed children into the world (as happened to families in Vietnam, Iraq, and also the United States).
www.rethinkingschools.org /war/readings/War172.shtml   (1484 words)

  
 What War Looks Like by Howard Zinn
Vietnam was a war that filled our heads with statistics, of which one stood out, embedded in the stark monument in Washington: 58,000 dead.
Ten years ago, in that first war against Iraq, our leaders were proud of the fact that there were only a few hundred American casualties (one wonders if the families of those soldiers would endorse the word "only").
Americans knew that this nation's casualties were few in the Gulf War and a combination of government control of the press and the media's meek acceptance of that control ensured that the American people would not be confronted, as they had been in Vietnam, with Iraqi dead and dying.
www.thirdworldtraveler.com /Zinn/What_War_Looks_Like.html   (1502 words)

  
 Trojan War
The Trojan War was the greatest conflict in the Greek mythology, a war that was to influences people in literature and arts for centuries.
The war was fought between the Greeks and Trojans with their allies, upon a Phrygian city of Troy (Ilium), on Asia Minor (modern Turkey).
Her other prophecy warned Achilles not to be the first Greek to jump on Trojan soil, or else he would be the first to die (see Arrival in Troy about the death of the first Greek leader).
www.timelessmyths.com /classical/trojanwar.html   (10194 words)

  
 What War Looks Like
It was been portrayed as a "war on terrorism," not a war on men, women, children.
For this we will need the help of people in the arts, those who through time--from Euripedes to Bob Dylan--have written and sung about specific, recognizable victims of war.
In 1935, Jean Giraudoux, the French playwright, with the memory of the first World War still in his head, wrote "The Trojan War Will Not Take Place." Demokos, a Trojan soldier, asks the aged Hecuba to tell him "what war looks like." She responds: "Like the bottom of a baboon.
www.rense.com /general29/wwarl.htm   (1436 words)

  
 The blood and eroticism of Troy. By David Edelstein - Slate Magazine   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-02)
The story, of course, comes to us largely from Homer's The Iliad, and while artists over the centuries have added their own gloss, the thrust remained unchanged: For all the heroics of these legendary warriors, the Trojan War was a grotesque and needless waste of lives.
In Troy, the war is ostensibly fought for love: The juvenile Prince Paris (Orlando Bloom) steals off with the beauteous Helen (German model Diane Kruger), to the understandable fury of her husband, King Menelaus (Brendan Gleeson).
But Petersen and Benioff take pains to spell out that, for Agamemnon (Brian Cox), the flight of Helen is just an excuse to whip up his armies to invade Troy, the last independent kingdom on the Aegean Sea.
slate.msn.com /id/2100463   (1491 words)

  
 Political Film Society - Troy
After Helen boards Paris's ship in the middle of the night, bound for Troy, Menelaus is furious that Paris has taken advantage of his hospitality, so he summons Agamemnon for a joint expedition to subdue Troy, which has impregnable walls and an able commander, Hector (played by Eric Bana).
Troy is razed, and Greece ultimately maintains dominance, but the three-day war in the film is a ten-year war in Homer's epic.
A body of a dead Trojan soldier is even dragged through the dust, and the Trojan horse could be seen as paralleling the hidden agenda of American occupation.
www.geocities.com /polfilms/troy.html   (486 words)

  
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Beyond both viewpoints--the glorification of war and the weighing of good and bad wars--there is a third: that war is too evil to ever be just.
The Spanish Civil War became the symbol all over the world of resistance to fascism, and young men--many of them socialists, Communists and anarchists--volunteered from a dozen countries, forming brigades (from the United States, the Abraham Lincoln Brigade), going immediately into battle against the better-equipped army of Franco.
There was a squad of fls taking a ten-minute break from hiking in the sun, lying on a small grassy incline, and singing a hymn that surprised me at the moment, but that I realized later was quite appropriate to their situation: "Ain't Gonna Study War No More."
co.quaker.org /Writings/JustAndUnjustWar.htm   (13141 words)

  
 www.haroldpinter.org - The Trojan War Will Not Take Place   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-02)
The Trojan War Will Not Take Place by Jean Giraudoux, The Lyttleton, The National Theatre, 10 May 1983
"Giraudoux's heavily ironic play about the peace-seeking Hector's unavailing attempt to forestall war had a certain fortuitous topicality.
Britain at that time was still recovering from the bellicose jingoism induced by the Falklands War the previous year.
www.haroldpinter.org /directing/directing_trojan.shtml   (179 words)

  
 What War Looks Like - Volume 17 No. 2 - Winter 2002/2003 - Rethinking Schools Online
They said not a word about the tens of thousands of Iraqis -- soldiers and civilians -- themselves victims first of Saddam Hussein's tyranny and then of George Bush's war.
We note that the mere possession of dangerous weapons is not grounds for war -- else we would have to make war on dozens of countries.
For this we will need the help of people in the arts, those who through time -- from Euripides to Bob Dylan -- have written and sung about specific, recognizable victims of war.
www.rethinkingschools.org /archive/17_02/War172.shtml   (1497 words)

  
 AlterNet: War on Iraq: What War Looks Like
The debate over the war on Iraq is over geopolitics and strategy, not the truly important issue: human life.
As the election season rolls around, Bush is doing everything he can to avoid a Dem sweep in the House of Congress - or else he might be impeached.
Our survey of recent media about young Americans will remind you that you're not alone.
www.alternet.org /waroniraq/14023   (1616 words)

  
 ZNet | Alternative Media | What War Looks Like
A few pages later, Dos Passos describes him: "The blood ran into the ground, the brains oozed out of the cracked skull and were licked up by the trenchrats, the belly swelled and raised a generation of bluebottle flies, and the incorruptible skeleton, and the scraps of dried viscera and skin bundled in khaki."
And for those who know the figures, the men, women, children be-hind the statistics remained un-known until a picture appeared of a Vietnamese girl running down a road, her skin shredding from na-palm, until Americans saw photos of women and children huddled in a trench as GIs poured automatic rifle fire into their bodies.
An Associated Press re-porter, one of the few allowed to go to the site, said: "Most of the recovered bodies were charred and mutilated beyond recognition."
www.zmag.org /content/AlternativeMedia/zinn_war.cfm   (1508 words)

  
 Moon and Stars Project   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-02)
Kaan Nazli was a member of the Ankara Communications Theater in 1996-1999, where he performed in The Crucible, The Trojan War Will Not Take Place and The Balcony.
Since moving to New York City he has been active in theater and film, working as an assistant director in Theater for the New City and HomeWorks Theater productions.
Last summer, he participated in workshops on Augusto Boal’s Theater for the Oppressed at the Brecht Forum and the Tisch School of the Arts in New York City.
www.moonandstarsproject.org /fests/2005_rapture_CV_kaan_nazli.shtml   (198 words)

  
 www.haroldpinter.org - Directing   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-11-02)
Stage, film and TV productions directed by Harold Pinter
The Trojan War Will Not Take Place (1983)
Harold Pinter and the cast of The Dwarfs (1963)
www.haroldpinter.org /directing/index.shtml   (38 words)

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