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  Knots and Ropework - Search View - MSN Encarta
Knots used to attach one rope to another or to attach a rope to an object are known as bends and hitches.
The square knot, also known as the reef knot because of its use in tying reefs in ships' sails (that is, reducing the area of the sail), is believed to be the oldest of all practical knots and is one of the most useful.
Another variant on this simple knot is the fool's knot or thief knot, which is similar to the square knot except that the loose ends emerge diagonally from opposite corners of the knot.
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 KAP knots and hitches
Knots and hitches are utilized for many purposes--joining two lines together, making a loop in a line, shortening lines, stopping lines, and attaching lines to anchors--posts, rings, cleats, etc. In fact, it is impossible to fly kites without the ability to tie a few basic knots.
A knot or hitch has two characteristics in terms of its potential effectiveness--strength and slippage, both of which are important for deciding which knot to use for a given purpose.
This compound knot combines the characteristics of the clove and half hitch into a knot that is quite strong and highly resistant to slippage.
www.geospectra.net /kite/knots/knots.htm   (1371 words)

  
 Thief knot
Uses: It resembles the square knot, aka reef knot except that the free, or working, ends are on opposite sides.
It is said that sailors would secure their belongings in a ditty bag using the thief knot, often with the ends hidden.
If another sailor went through the bag, the odds were high the thief would tie the bag back using the more common square knot, revealing the tampering, hence the name.
www.ebroadcast.com.au /lookup/encyclopedia/th/Thief_knot.html   (85 words)

  
 Reef knot
Related knot(s): thief knot, granny knot, grief knot.
Comments: The working ends of the two lines of a square knot must be cis (that is, both at the top or both at the bottom); the other lines lead to the full rope.
If you pull on an end, the knot will loosen and invert (turning into a lark's head[?] knot), hence its original purpose: it secured the furled-in sails, and is easily undone one-handedly by a sailor who is holding on with the other hand.
www.ebroadcast.com.au /lookup/encyclopedia/re/Reef_knot.html   (352 words)

  
 Come Caving with the VPI Cave Club!
Knots used to secure another knot should be as close as possible to the main knot and oriented to fit tightly against it.
Of the fourteen required knots, four are based on the overhand knot (overhand knot, water knot, square knot, double fisherman's bend), and four are secured with overhand knots (bowline, mountaineering bowline, bowline on a coil, and helical).
This knot is usually tied near the end of a rope and used as a main rigging knot.
www.cave.org.vt.edu /knots.shtml   (4412 words)

  
 ProSoundWeb | Basic Principles for Suspending Loudspeaker Systems
Knot efficiency is the approximate strength of a rope with a knot as compared to the full strength of the rope.
The Sheet Bend is a simple knot to tie, consisting of an overhand loop on one piece, with the second rope end fed up through the loop from behind, around the standing part of the first rope and back down through the loop from the front.
The thief knot is deceptively similar to the square knot, but has the two loose ends coming out of the opposite sides, instead of from the same side as in the square knot.
www.prosoundweb.com /studyhall/jbl/suspend.php   (1663 words)

  
 ROPES AND KNOTS | CHANDLERY SAILING AND MOTOR BOAT EQUIPMENT | SOLAR NAVIGATOR WORLD ELECTRIC NAVIGATION CHALLENGE.
Knots have been the subject of interest both for their ancient origins, common use, and the mathematical implications of knot theory.
A 'Knot' is also a measure of speed in water, which gains its name from the distance between two knots of a piece of rope.
For example, loop knots share the attribute of having some kind of an anchor point constructed on the standing end (such as a loop or overhand knot) into which the working end is easily hitched to using a round turn.
www.solarnavigator.net /knots.htm   (958 words)

  
 The Reef Knot Family (Reef, Thief, Granny & Grief)
The square knot or reef knot should only be used as a binding knot where it lies tightly against the surface of that which it binds and cannot move.
A surgeon's knot or ligature knot is just a square knot with a double tuck on the first half of the knot instead of a single tuck.
This knot is supposed to fool a thief into retying a square knot after plundering a sack, thus alerting the owner.
www.geocities.com /roo_two/reefknot.html   (516 words)

  
 Rope and Knots Page
The bending of the rope in the making of a knot or hitch causes the outside fibres to carry more than their share of the load, and the resultant stretching of the fibres weakens the rope.
Use the figure-eight knot to form a larger knot at the end of a rope than would be formed by an overhand knot.
The bowline is one of the most common knots and has a variety of uses, one of which is the lowering of men and material.
www.66thlondon.org /knots.html   (2665 words)

  
 Knot & Lashing
The overhand knot is commonly tied in a bight formed at the end of a rope, forming the Overhand Loop.
An excellent general purpose knot for tying two pieces of string or twine together, the reef knot is possibly the most commonly used knot for the job, and is easy to learn.
A chant used by many to remember this knot is "The rabbit comes out of the hole, round the tree, and back down the hole again", where the hole is the small loop, and the rabbit is the running end of the rope.
www.geocities.com /kinta_ke_19/skill/knot.htm   (1790 words)

  
 SummitPost - Knots for hiking and climbing -- Facts & Information
The working ends of the reef knot must be "cis" (both at the top or both at the bottom); the other ends leading to the full rope.
The knot is a flattened loop, which is held at each end by a half hitch.
The knot provides you with two loops, one at each end of the knot which can be used to pass a rope through.
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 Learn to tie knots!
This is a commonly used knot to tie a loop in the end of a rope.
The difference is that the ends of the Thief knot come off opposite sides of the knot and in the Reef knot, they come off the same sides.
The overhand knot is commonly tied in a loop formed at the end of a rope, forming the Overhand Loop.
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 christophermolloy.com » outdoor living » the 10 bushcraft books » knots & lashings (pt. 1)
Knots and lashings take the place of nails for much bushwork, and when it comes to traps and snares, a thorough knowledge of all running knots is essential.
Overhand knot may be put to the same use as the thumb knot.
This knot is primarily for a mast head, to form loops by means of which the mast be stayed.
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 Bends
Notes: The working ends of the square knot must be cis (that is, both at the top or both at the bottom); the other lines lead to the full rope.
A number of knotting guides have voted this knot "the worst knot", and noted that more deaths and injuries have been caused by its misuse than all other knots combined.
If you pull on one end, at right-angles to the knot, it will loosen and invert (turning into a lark's head knot), hence its original purpose: it secured the furled-in sails, and is easily undone one-handedly by a sailor who is holding on with the other hand.
www.bsatroop542.org /Knots_SquareKnot.htm   (323 words)

  
 Roper's Knot Pages - Bends - Reef knot
Ashley says "it is a true Binder Knot, for which it is admirable, but under no circumstances should it be used as a bend." It is easy tied and will not jam, so it is always easy to untie.
Its relatives, the granny, the thief-knot and the what-knot all have their purposes, but not as a trustful knot.
If a thief closed the bag after his theft, he would close it with a reef-knot, which is detectable by the sailor.
www.realknots.com /knots/reefk.htm   (263 words)

  
 Knot Tying - Square   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
The square knot is the first knot that new scouts learn in Troop 258; the reason being is because it is the most common knot used.
The square knot is used to tie packages, and is used by sailors for binding rolled sails.
The square knot should be able to move away from itself, making it loose, but then if you pull it back it should return the way it was.
www.troop258nj.com /Knots_Page6.htm   (255 words)

  
 Knotcraft by Stuart E. Grainger   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
Several other knots can be used for either single strand or multi strand netting, but in single strand netting, the knot is tied vertically, whereas in multi strand netting, the knot lies horizontally.
The knot is here refered to as a Reef Knot, is arguably something else, the problem being that it is not a Square Knot or a Thief Knot either, although it is closest to the last.
A Reef Knot is, strictly speaking, tied with two ends, as also is a Square Knot, but most of my readers are likely to be familiar with the Reef Knot and it's appearance, so pedantry will be abandoned and a knot that looks like a Reef Knot shall be known as one.
www.troop54.com /knots/Netting.htm   (1181 words)

  
 Scouting Resources - Knots - R-Z
Surgeon's Knot - This is a variation of the Reef Knot in which an extra turn is taken at the start to help prevent the knot from tending to loosen while being completed.
Thief Knot - A variation of the Reef Knot in which the ends are on opposite sides.
True Lover's Knot - There are a number of knots which have been given this name from time to time, including the Middleman's Knot, but the on shown here, also known as the Shamrock Knot, appears to have the best claim to the title.
www.scoutingresources.org.uk /knots_az03.html   (1600 words)

  
 Knot   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
Another way of thinking about this knot, or rather the relationship between this one and Hunter's Bend, is that each is formed by taking one of the differing sides of a Lineman's Loop (Ashley 1043) and duplicating it symmetrically.
If not sufficiently loose, the knot fails to capsize completely, and the intermediate form is not as strong as when completely capsized, which is according to Ashley "one of the strongest of bends".
This knot is very similar to a recently discovered knot called the Boa knot; in fact, if the bight on the left in step one, above, were of the opposite handedness, a Boa knot would result.
library.wustl.edu /~manynote/knot.html   (1881 words)

  
 Scout Knots   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
In the same way that a Left Handed Sheet bend is a Sheet bend that has the running end of the rope coming out of the wrong side of the knot, a cowboy bowline is a bowline that also has the running end of the rope coming out of the wrong side of the knot.
The reef knot can easliy be undone by gripping one loose end, and pulling it back over the knot, in the opposite direction, thus straightening the rope which is pulled.
The knot gets its name from its use on sailing ships, when the sails were "reefed" - rolled up and tied to the cross spar with a reef knot.
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 Messing About In Boats
The thief's knot looks like a square knot, but it is not, and can't be tied by adding half knots.
If you tie a granny knot (which is symmetrical, as left over right and then left over right) and it is rather loose, you can pull sharply on one free end and find that you have a clove hitch tied on a straight piece of line.
The other knot that surgeons use to tie off big bundles, when they don't have a finger to hold on the first half knot to keep it tight, is the surgeon's knot.
www.messingaboutinboats.com /archives/mbissuefebruary04.html   (1529 words)

  
 The Drachen Foundation: A Non-Profit Kite Education Resource—Building
The knot is made at the end of a rope or line to prevent it from slipping through an eye, loop or hole.
The thief knot closely resembles the reef knot and according to legend, it was used by whalers to tie their clothes bag.
The thief knot differs from the reef knot in the way it is tied and, in the finished knot, the short ends are on the opposite sides.
www.drachen.org /about_kites_building.html   (703 words)

  
 Decorative Knots
Lanyard knots is an example with blimp knot, braid knot, Chinese cloverleaf knot oblong knot, mystic knot, pectoral knot, Chinese lanyard knot, good luck knot, knife lanyard knot, foot rope knot, wall knot and Matthew Walker Knots.
Basic knotting information such as multiple overhand knots, crown knots, overhand bend, one-way back-tucked sheet bend, tumbling thief knot and Fisherman's knots are added to the tips and techniques pages.
Some of the knots are illustrated as flat with directional arrows of path movement, while other knots are illustrated with a three dimensional piece in the background and the knot setting on the piece and in the foreground.
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 Reef Knot (Square Knot (A.E.))
Remember this is a called a knot NOT a bend, as it should not for tying two ropes together, especially when your life depends on it, as it is easily spilt.
They use a subtle variation of this knot to close their luggage, when the knot is in the 'normal' form as presented here they know that there was someone who has looked in their luggage.
Also a response to the fellow who stated this is not a reef knot shown here: It is. The type to which he referred is a "slipped" reef knot or Single Bow, and that is the form often used for reefing sails to allow for a quick release.
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 In the Same Boat - Paddling.Net
The reef knot is also known as the square knot.
The bowline is often called the king of knots, and it's the knot of choice when you want a non-slip loop at the end of a line.
The figure-eight knot — tie it the same way as the loop, but don't double the line first — makes a fine stopper at the end of a rope.
www.paddling.net /sameboat/archives/sameboat200.html   (1564 words)

  
 Thieves Knot   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
I've heard that sailors used to use this knot to tie the pull straps that closed the bags with their personal belongings.
If the owner later returned and found a square knot instead of the thieves knot, he/she knew that someone else (a thief) had untied the thief's knot, rummaged through the bag and retied a square knot to close it.
The square knot always has both short ends facing up or down, but never one up and one down like the thieves knot.
www.rcarchive.com /scouts/thief.html   (135 words)

  
 Scouting Knots Reference
The eagles have landed: Four Westwood teens reach Scouting's top rankDaily News Transcript, MA - Nov 26, 2006The four were scheduled to attain the highest rank in Scouting on Saturday at a ceremony at the First Baptist Church on High Street.
The point is there is a lot more to Boy Scouts than knots," Sanders asserted.
- Common scouting knots including the Halyard bend, the Tiller's hitch, the Granny knot, and the Lariat loop.
www.iaswww.com /ODP/Reference/Knots/Scouting   (281 words)

  
 Knots and Loops   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
Thief Knot: Differs from the Square knot in the placement of the running end.
Note ensure that the two thumb knots are tied so that they nestle together when tightened.
Slip Knot: Used where the strain on the standing part will hold the knot.
www.pack91.info /Knots.htm   (188 words)

  
 The Basic Knots, Beutner Multimedia Software Services   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-17)
You can learn how to tie the most important knots used in scouting, camping, hiking, and boating with interactive video.
Tying basic knots is an important skill that you can learn quickly and easily in front of a PC with the included rope segments.
Dave Guldin, an experienced Alaskan seaman and tugboat operator, guides you through the steps of tying the most useful knots for daily life with clear expert instruction.
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 Grief knot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A grief knot is a binding knot which combines the features of a granny knot and a thief knot, producing a result which is not generally useful for working purposes.
It unravels rather elegantly: as tension is applied, the ropes rotate like little cogs, each one twisting to feed the rope through the knot.
Then take the other end, and pass it up through the bight, over the top of the bight, down and up through the bight again to go over the bottom of the bight, and then finally up through the bight to come out where the end first went in.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Grief_knot   (242 words)

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