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  Bryn Mawr Classical Review 94.03.07
All we know is that Diogenes says that Thrasyllus thought genuine all 36 dialogues in the 9 tetralogies and that he affixed the double titles to the dialogues, the name of the interlocutor and the subject.
Even assuming that the present arrangement is Thrasyllus' and that this differs significantly from Plato's or from someone else's earlier than Thrasyllus, the important question is what is the rationale for the arrangement and what influence did it have on the reading of the dialogues.
Thrasyllus may have had some Plato-inspired educational system in mind when making his arrangement, but it is difficult to believe that he thought that this arrangement actually represented Plato's philosophy.
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 Thrasyllus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thrasyllus was an Athenian general and statesman who rose to prominence in the later years of the Peloponnesian War.
Thrasyllus was only a hoplite in the ranks in 410 BC, when Athenian oligarchic revolutionaries conspired with their counterparts at Samos to launch coups at both locations, but he was one of the four Athenians (along with Thrasybulus, Leon, and Diomedon) who the Samian democrats trusted to protect them from the plot.
The Athenians pursued Mindarus, and Thrasyllus commanded a wing of the fleet in the Athenian victories at Cynossema and Abydos.
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 Thrasyllus of Athens
Thrasyllus an Athenian, was serving as a hoplite in the army at Samos, in 411 BC, and was one of those who persuaded the soldiers and sailors to aid the Samian people against the expected attempt of the oligarchical conspirators to put down democracy in the island.
411 BC, Thrasyllus commanded the left wing of the fleet at the battle of Cynossema, in which the Athenians defeated the Peloponnesians; and somewhat later, after the victory gained by the Athenians over the Lacedaemonian fleet near Abydus, he was despatched to Athens to bear the good news and to ask for supplies.
In 408 BC Thrasyllus was engaged with Alcibiades in the successful operations at Chalcedon, which induced Pharnabazus to accept terms of accommodation from the Athenians He probably shared also in the siege and reduction of Byzantium in the same year.
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 Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, page 1109 (v. 3)   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
411, Thrasyllus commanded the left wing of the fleet at the battle of Cynossema, in which the Athenians defeated the Peloponnesians ; and some­what later, after the victory gained by the Athe­nians over the Lacedaemonian fleet near Abydus, he was despatched to Athens to bear the good news and to ask for supplies.
408 Thrasyllus was engaged with Alcibiades in the successful operations at Chalcedon, which induced Pharnabazus to accept terms of accommo­dation from the Athenians.
Thrasyllus accompanied Tiberius to Rome, when he was recalled by Augustus, and appears to have always lived with him.
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 Detail Page
As Tiberius himself was fascinated by the stars, he allowed Thrasyllus to become an intimate, regretting this decision eventually.
The astrologer would have been thrown to his death from a rocky cliff on the island had he not supposedly predicted that he felt himself to be in danger and that the ship then sailing into the harbor of Rhodes brought good news.
Thrasyllus died one year before Tiberius, in 36.
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 Astrology in the Roman World 200 B.C. - 500 A.D.
Eventually Thrasyllus was invited to Tiberius’s villa to advise the Emperor.
Either impressed by the astrologer’s skill, or amused by his cheek, Tiberius spared Thrasyllus the journey down the cliff and employed him as his permanent astrologer for the rest of the reign.
Unlike Thrasyllus who, according to Suetonius restrained the bloodthirsty tendencies of Tiberius, Balbillus encouraged those of Nero, and on one particular occasion inspired his master to murder a great number of Roman nobles in order to appease a comet which he feared was a bad omen.
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 Thrasyllus
Thrasyllus, after reaching Tiberius by this steep route, had impressed him, when interrogated, by his intelligent forecasts of future events - including Tiberius' accession.
Thrasyllus, after measuring the positions and distances of the stars, hesitated and then showed alarm.
Thrasyllus was admitted among his closest friends; his pronouncements were regarded as oracular.
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 The Oktotopos Question
Thrasyllus was astrologer to both Augustus and Tiberius; the first two books of Manilius were published when Augustus was still alive; Book Four was published after his death (i.e.
Thrasyllus lists a nearly identical 8-topic list, the differences being the second house as "manner of living" in Schmidt's translation, compared to Antiochus' rather vague description, and "wife" rather than "marriage" for the seventh.
Thrasyllus' 12-topic list includes siblings in the third and spouse in the seventh; parental possessions rather than the parents per se are included in the fourth.
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 Bryn Mawr Classical Review 04.06.12
Tarrant is undoubtedly correct in holding that Theon was much impressed with Thrasyllus and used his work in developing his own mélange of mathematical, astronomical, and musical Platonism.
In a nicely ambiguous conclusion to the chapter on Porphyry and Thrasyllus, Tarrant says, "[Thrasyllus] seems to have had a logos-theory as important for his own thought as Philo's [of Alexandria] logos was to his (146-7)." Perhaps this is so.
The problem here, however, is that when it is possible to give an authentically Platonic interpretation of a text, it is so very hard to whether a reading is genuine or not.
ccat.sas.upenn.edu /bmcr/1993/04.06.12.html   (1520 words)

  
 The Imperial Planets
Thrasyllus was the only one to comment on his own danger, which impressed Tiberius so much that he spared him.
In fact, Thrasyllus was to predecease Tiberius - although not before one final concern, when he learned that his daughter Ennia, on a visit to Capri, had started an adulterous affair with Caius, now fairly clearly the main contender for the throne after Tiberius' death.
Had Thrasyllus not assured Tiberius that his life was safe for at least another decade, the trials would swiftly have been concluded, Domitius executed, and Nero would never have been born.
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 Short Trips: The History of Christmas
The Doctor falls into conversation with Thrasyllus and is astonished by the accuracy of the astrologer's calculations.
Thrasyllus tells him he was originally taught by a man he met in Babylon and later by that man's master in Egypt.
After forty years on Earth Thrasyllus, a savant capable of rapid complex mental calculations, was his only hope of navigating his way off the planet.
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 Untitled Document   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
Thrasyllus did not take this well at all, and his loneliness for Charite, soon turned into vengeful thoughts and intentions for their marriage.
When it did, Thrasyllus did just as Charite had said, the nurse led him into the house, and while he was waiting, she served him wine, mixed with a sleeping chemical.
When Thrasyllus received this news, he could no longer bear to live, and went to the tomb where the two were buried, got in himself and died there of starvation.
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 Tacitus: Annals: Book 6 [20]
Thrasyllus accordingly was led up the same cliffs, and when he had deeply impressed his questioner by cleverly revealing his imperial destiny and future career, he was asked whether he had also thoroughly ascertained his own horoscope, and the character of that particular year and day.
After surveying the positions and relative distances of the stars, he first paused, then trembled, and the longer he gazed, the more was he agitated by amazement and terror, till at last he exclaimed that a perilous and well-nigh fatal crisis impended over him.
Good and evil, again, are not what vulgar opinion accounts them; many who seem to be struggling with adversity are happy; many, amid great affluence, are utterly miserable, if only the first bear their hard lot with patience, and the latter make a foolish use of their prosperity.
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 Blas' Personal Page: Chaos and Order, Fortune and Isis
Thrasyllus ends up starving himself to death after Charite's suicide.
Both are caused by other people who, at the time, where motivated by evil (though, it could be argued that Thrasyllus had a higher motivation: his love (or lust) for Charite).
The other characters in the book, such as the stepmother and Thrasyllus, are closer to Juno in personality than is Fortune.
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 Greek and Roman Ghost Stories, Lacy Collison-Morley - Section 5 of 7 - Book Club/Short Stories - ArcaMax Publishing
She has Thrasyllus informed that she cannot come to any definite decision till her year of mourning is over.
Overjoyed at his success, Thrasyllus comes at the hour appointed, and is duly admitted by the old nurse.
Thither Thrasyllus followed her, declaring that he dedicated himself to the Manes of his own free-will.
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 Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, page 1107 (v. 3)   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-10)
When the news arrived of the establishment of the Four Hundred at Athens, Thrasybulus and Thrasyllus were among the most active in urging resistance, to the oligarchy, and exacted a solemn oath from the Athenians of the fleet that they would maintain the democracy, and persevere in the war with the Peloponnesians.
In an assembly held soon after in the camp, some of the suspected generals were removed, and others appointed in their room.
After his junction with Thrasyllus was fought the battle of Cynossema, in which Thrasybulus commanded the right wing, and by a sudden attack upon the Peloponnesians, who had gained a partial success, turned the fortune of the day.
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 Neronian Astrology
Thrasyllus, close friend of the emperor Tiberius, was the towering intellect of his time.
Only fragments of the astrological methods of Thrasyllus and his son survive in the commentaries of other writers, and nothing of Ptolemy Seleucus.
However the substantial agreement between the two astrology manuals that have come down to us intact, the second century Tetrabiblos and the fourth century Matheseos, suggest that the basic tenets of astrological dogma were widely accepted and remain so up to the present day.
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Significant, however, is the fact that Thrasybulus, with one exception, is always mentioned with Thrasyllus: and this attachment to another public figure is a marked feature of Thrasybulus' career, and could well have been better exploited in the discussion, which must now rely on the lesser sources, namely Xenophon and Diodorus.
However, the device of assuming a prominence not specifically noted in the evidence is at best a weak course to follow, at worst closely akin to an invention of material simply not present in the original sources.
It is clearly evident that Buck's work has a tendency to become a general history of the Greek city-states for the years between 412 and 389, although the account is always clear and concise and, as such, will be useful as a guide both for students and teachers.
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 Thrasybulus
The first of these was the rule of the Four Hundred, established in 411 BC while the fleet was at Samos.
The navy employed mostly poorer citizens and included many of the most ardent supporters of the democracy, and under Thrasybulus and Thrasyllus[?] these declared their opposition to the revolutionaries, believing themselves to be in as good a position as the men of the city.
They also recalled the exile Alcibiades, hoping by his influence to obtain an alliance with Persia.
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Reviewed by Lloyd Gerson -- University of Toronto Most classicists, including those specializing in ancient philosophy, will likely know at most two facts about Thrasyllus: he was the Emperor Tiberius' astrologer and he arranged the Platonic corpus into tetralogies.
For there arose a keen interest in separating authentic from spurious Platonic works, ordering these in a perspicuous fashion, and in somehow reconciling the apparently confliciting traditions that had in time arose out of reflection upon them.
Although we may actually have a little more of his thought available to us than has been assumed and although his tetralogical arrangement may have subtley affected the way some Middle Platonists read Plato, I do not believe that a distinct version of Platonism indicated by the title of this book has actually been resurrected.
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 Magic in the Ancient Greco-Roman World -Assignment 2
Knowing her family and situation, you had warned him that Charite was protected by powerful countercharms and would not respond as easily as the other maidens whom he had asked you to cast agoge spells upon.
When she did not come to him, you suggested that he might do better trying to influence her father, but he went off, muttering about getting help from other friends.
Thrasyllus' wealth made him a serious contender for Charite's hand, but his unsavory reputation made her father nervous.
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 Hellenistic Astrology [Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy]
The later Platonic Academy had its fair share of astrological interest — head of the academy in the first century C.E., Thrasyllus, for example, acted as an astrologer to Emperor Tiberius and is credited for works on astrology and numerology.
Balbillus, son of Thrasyllus and astrologer to Nero, Seneca, and a certain Alexandrian Stoic, Chaeremon, were all appointed tutors to L. Domitius.
This use of astrology implies that the astrologers themselves did not prescribe to strict fatalism, at least the kind that dictates that knowledge from signs of the heavens cannot influence events.
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 APA Newsletters 98:1 - Plato: Complete Works
These were collected, edited, and arranged by the first century A.D. Alexandrian scholar Thrasyllus, who divided them into nine "tetralogies," or groups of four.
Thrasyllus appended eight dialogues that had come down under Plato’s name but were generally considered spurious.
Printing the dialogues in Thrasyllus’ original order—as opposed to arranging them according to some putative chronology—facilitates this approach.
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Mansfeld argues that the ordering by trilogies precedes the tetralogic plan used by Thrasyllus (though there was also a pre-Thrasyllan tetralogic order).
The principles used by Thrasyllus can, according to Mansfeld, be partially discerned.
The effect of Hellenistic schematizations of philosophy is evident, but "it would seem that most of the time Thrasyllus still applies literary rather than philosophical criteria, just as Aristophanes had done before him" (70).
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 Metamorphoseon liber VIII - Wikisource
Sed Thrasyllus nimium nimius clamare, plangere et quas in primo maerore lacrimas non habebat iam scilicet crescente gaudio reddere et multis caritatis nominibus Veritatem ipsam fallere.
Sed Thrasyllus, praeceps alioquin et de ipso nomine temerarium, priusquam dolorem lacrimae satiarent et percitae mentis resideret furor et in sese nimietatis senio lassesceret luctus, adhuc flentem maritum, adhuc vestes lacerantem, adhuc capillos distrahentem non dubitavit de nuptiis convenire et imprudentiae labe tacita pectoris sui secreta fraudesque ineffabiles detegere.
Nec isto sermone Thrasyllus sobriefactum vel saltem tempestiva pollicitatione recreatus identidem pergit lingua satianti susurros improbos inurgere, quoad simulanter revicta Charite suscipit: "Istud equidem certe magnopere deprecanti concedas necesse est mihi, Thrasylle, ut interdum taciti clandestinos coitus obeamus nec quisquam persentiscat familiarium, quoad reliquos dies metiatur annus."
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 Gutenkarte » The History of the Peloponnesian War » Cuma
Meanwhile Thrasyllus had heard of his having put out from Miletus, and immediately set sail with fifty-five ships from Samos, in haste to arrive before him in the Hellespont.
Thrasyllus accordingly determined to go there with all his ships and to attack the place.
Meanwhile Thrasybulus had preceded him thither with five ships from Samos, as soon as he heard that the exiles had crossed over, and coming too late to save Eresus, went on and anchored before the town.
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 ekathimerini.com | Features
The Choragic Monument of Thrasyllus, which for years has resembled little more than an abandoned cave in the Acropolis’s flank, will finally be restored, drawing more visitors, enhancing understanding of the area of the rock’s southern slope and bringing back a major historic work.
The Choragic Monument of Thrasyllus was built — according to the choragus’s surviving inscription on the architrave — in 320-319 BC, while the winning choragus, Thrasycles (son of Thrasyllus), set up his choragic tripods on two inscribed pedestals by the monument’s entablature in 271-270.
In lieu of Thrasyllus’ tripod, “a marble statue of Dionysus has insinuated itself, in a later Roman style.” The statue, which was removed by Lusieri in 1805 on behalf of Lord Elgin (he of the Marbles fame), is now on display at the British Museum.
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