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	Timaeus (dialogue) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-12)
		Timaeus is a theoretical treatise of Plato in the form of a Socratic dialogue, written circa 360 BC The work puts forward speculation on the nature of the physical world.
		Timaeus begins with a distinction between the physical world, which is the world of change, and the eternal world.
		Timaeus suggests that since nothing "becomes or changes" without cause, then the cause of the universe must be a demiurge or God, a figure Timaeus refers to as the father of the universe.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Timaeus_(dialogue) (869 words)

	Plato's Timaeus (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
		Timaeus’ discourse moves on with an account of the mechanisms of respiration and digestion, and a classification and etiological discussion of various diseases of both body and soul.
		It is not until much later in Timaeus’ discourse (51b7–e6) that forms are mentioned for the first time, and their existence is argued for on the basis of the distinction (itself supported by argument) between understanding and (true) opinion.
		Timaeus does not say why each face is composed of six such triangles, when in fact two, joined at the longer of the two sides that contain the right angle, will more simply constitute an equilateral triangle.
	plato.stanford.edu /entries/plato-timaeus (8050 words)

	Timaeus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Timaeus of Locri, the 5th-century Pythagorean philosopher, appearing in Plato's s Timaeus.
		Timaeus, the historian from Tauromenium in Sicily, born around 345 BC.
		The Legendary Dragon Timaeus, one of the Three Legendary Dragons from the Waking the Dragons arc in Yu-Gi-Oh!
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Timaeus (127 words)

	The Internet Classics Archive \| Timaeus by Plato
		And we too, Socrates, as Timaeus says, will not be wanting in enthusiasm; and there is no excuse for not complying with your request.
		Then listen, Socrates, to a tale which, though strange, is certainly true, having been attested by Solon, who was the wisest of the seven sages.
		Enough, if we adduce probabilities as likely as any others; for we must remember that I who am the speaker, and you who are the judges, are only mortal men, and we ought to accept the tale which is probable and enquire no further.
	classics.mit.edu /Plato/timaeus.html (7010 words)

	Middle Platonism [Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy]
		Interpreting Plato literally, 'Timaeus' affirmed the temporal creation of the cosmos, and while stating that the cosmos is capable of being destroyed by the one who created it (the Demiurge), he denied that it would ever actually be destroyed, since it is divine and the Demiurge, being good and divine himself, would never destroy divinity.
		'Timaeus' then proceeds with an account of the geometrical proportions of the cosmos, finally declaring that the image of the cosmos is the dodecahedron, since that is the closest approximation to the perfect sphere, which is the image of purely intellectual reality.
		The ethical doctrine of 'Timaeus' involved a taming of the passions and the moderation of bodily pleasures, the final goal being a state of repose conducive to the contemplation of divine things.
	www.iep.utm.edu /m/midplato.htm (8719 words)

	Classics in the History of Psychology -- Plato's Timaeus Part 1
		Timaeus: He has been taken ill, Socrates; for he would not willingly have been absent from this gathering.
		Timaeus: Certainly, and we will do all that we can; having been handsomely entertained by you yesterday, those of us who remain should be only too glad to return your hospitality.
		Timaeus: We remember some of them, and you will be here to remind us of anything which we have forgotten: or rather, if we are not troubling you, will you briefly recapitulate the whole, and then the particulars will be more firmly fixed in our memories?
	psychclassics.yorku.ca /Plato/Timaeus/timaeus1.htm (6266 words)

	Bryn Mawr Classical Review 2000.06.21
		With a remarkable regularity, this bastard reasoning has been assimilated either to a legitimate and legitimating discourse concerning "space" or "place," or to the rhetoric of a certain Platonic modesty that requires the differentiation of a rigorous deductive presentation of the truth from a certain speculative, mythological, or oneiric transgression of "legitimate" discourse.
		Sallis' work on Plato's dialogues is well known: his Being and Logos: The Way of Platonic Dialogue (Third edition, Indiana U. Press, 1996) remains an important work for scholars who recognize the necessity of taking into account the specificity of textual form in any adequate interpretation of Plato's text.
		Timaeus begins with the fundamental metaphysical distinction between the sensible and the intelligible (27d-28a).
	ccat.sas.upenn.edu /bmcr/2000/2000-06-21.html (1828 words)

	Original Atlantean Story Overview V1
		A section of the TIMAEUS Dialogue also introduces the whereabouts of the lost capital seaport of Atlantis within the western ocean realm near the center of a great continental island and reveals the scale of the Atlantean Maritime Kingdom as once having governmental control over the eastern Mediterranean realm.
		This dialogue section further describes the global layout of what is now the Atlantic Ocean and compares the Mediterranean Sea area as a harbor with a narrow entrance that is opposite of the Atlantean continent of what is now the collective American continents.
		The last section in the TIMAEUS Dialogue that refers to the location of the lost Atlantean capital seaport states the view in which “a shoal of mud” blocks access to the area and “was caused by subsidence of the island”.
	ourworld.cs.com /duanekmccullough/atlanstry.htm (1594 words)

	Timaeus, by Plato (introduction)
		There is a similar uncertainty about the Timaeus; in the first part he scales the heights of transcendentalism, in the latter part he treats in a bald and superficial manner of the functions and diseases of the human frame.
		The descriptive portion of the Timaeus retains traces of the first Greek prose composition; for the great master of language was speaking on a theme with which he was imperfectly acquainted, and had no words in which to express his meaning.
		TIMAEUS: All men who have any right feeling, at the beginning of any enterprise, call upon the Gods; and he who is about to speak of the origin of the universe has a special need of their aid.
	etext.library.adelaide.edu.au /p/plato/p71ti/introduction.html (21439 words)

	philosophy \| john bigelow \| work in progress (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-12)
		The Timaeus is a dialogue which plays a central role in the history of both European and Islamic thought; and there is a lot going on in the dialogue - mystical theology for instance, and politics (sexual and otherwise), as well as science and mathematics.
		Timaeus had earlier argued, in sketching the intelligible plan, that there can be only one world; then after introducing khora and beginning again, we revisit the question of how many worlds there are.
		Timaeus seems, at any rate, to be warning us that he should not be expected to be "consistent" - or to restrict himself to plain, literal speech - if he is being asked to speak about such deep matters as khora.
	www.arts.monash.edu.au /phil/department/bigelow/space.html (12192 words)

	The Matter of Timaeus
		Timaeus descended down into the dream realm and encountered three dancers on trapeze.
		Timaeus proceeded into the audience to the first small stage, representing the element of air.
		Timaeus and the three states of being end the production by climbing onto a large three-dimensional geometric-shaped trapeze, and end high above the stage in a spinning pinwheel of bodies, arms, and legs.
	www.anunnaki.org /productions/timaeus.php (523 words)

	Plato. Cosmos of the Greek Philosophers (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-12)
		In Timaeus, the dialogue with his most elaborate presentation of a cosmogony, he does not let his teacher Socrates speak on the subject, but the Pythagorean philosopher Timaeus, who has given the dialogue its name.
		Timaeus starts by stating his opinion on a matter having been discussed by most of the philosophers — whether the world is created or not, eternal or with a beginning, and thereby a possible end.
		Timaeus does not name them, but to the Greeks the stars in question were no mystery.
	www.stenudd.com /myth/greek/plato.htm (1829 words)

	Plato, Timaeus
		And thus people of your class are the only ones remaining who are fitted by nature and education to take part at once both in politics and philosophy.
		Here is Timaeus, of Locris in Italy, a city which has admirable laws, and who is himself in wealth and rank the equal of any of his fellow-citizens; he has held the most important and honorable offices in his own state, and, as I believe, has scaled the heights of all philosophy.
		And here is Critias, whom every Athenian knows to be no novice in the matters of which we are speaking; and as to, Hermocrates, I am assured by many witnesses that his genius and education qualify him to take part in any speculation of the kind.
	englishare.net /literature/POL-LDS-TEXT-Timaeus.htm (12799 words)

	Timaeus
		And we too, Socrates, as Timaeus says, will not be wanting in enthusiasm ; and there is no excuse for not complying with your request.
		Enough, if we adduce probabilities as likely as any others ; for we must remember that I who am the speaker, and you who are the judges, are only mortal men, and we ought to accept the tale which is probable and enquire no further.
		Wherefore they cut the air-channels leading to the lung, and placed the lung about the heart as a soft spring, that, when passion was rife within, the heart, beating against a yielding body, might be cooled and suffer less, and might thus become more ready to join with passion in the service of reason.
	www.ac-nice.fr /philo/textes/Plato-Works/25-Timaeus.htm (11937 words)

	Timaeus & Critias
		Curiously, this is not to be accomplished in a straightforward way: Timaeus is to relate instead a story of the cosmic origins of the universe, eventually bringing his tale down to men.
		Given that the dramatic date of the dialogues is approximately 425 B.C., advanced civilizations would have had to exist both in the Mediterranean and on the lost continent around 1300 BC Added to this impossibility is the simple improbability of a continent as large as Plato suggests existing beyond the Straits of Gibraltar.
		Not only the Timaeus and Critias dialogues, but the very absence of a Hermocrates dialogue, may be products of this failure; Hermocrates, it is believed, was intended to take the cosmic assertions of the Timaeus and the ancient, lost history of the Critias, and bring the story into the present, dealing with current issues.
	www2.kenyon.edu /Depts/IPHS/Projects/Stella/Plato.htm (1867 words)

	Jolly Roger Great Books Forums - November's Great Book of The Month is Plato's Dialogues (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-12)
		The most important writings of Plato are his dialogues, although a handful of epigrams also survive, and some letters have come down to us under his name.
		We have very good reason to believe that all the known dialogues of Plato survive; some of the dialogues which the Greeks ascribed to him are considered by the consensus of scholars to be either suspect (e.g., First Alcibiades, Clitophon) or probably spurious (such as Demodocus, or the Second Alcibiades).
		Socrates is often a character in the dialogues of Plato.
	jollyrogerwest.com /printthread.php?t=886 (279 words)

	Plato, Timaeus ToC: The Online Library of Liberty (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-12)
		One of Plato’s many Dialogues in which he uses the dialogue format to explore some of the most fundamental questions of Western philosophy and political thought.
		In the supposed depths of this dialogue the Neo-Platonists found hidden meanings and connections with the Jewish and Christian Scriptures, and out of them they elicited doctrines quite at variance with the spirit of Plato.
		Steph. 20‘And therefore to you I turn, Timaeus, citizen of Locris, who are at once a philosopher and a statesman, and to you, Critias, whom all Athenians know to be similarly accomplished, and to Hermocrates, who is also fitted by nature and education to share in our discourse.’ Her.
	oll.libertyfund.org /Home3/HTML.php?recordID=0343 (17596 words)

	Table of Contents for The Platonic Solid
		Timaeus, the Introduction with Socrates and Critias on Atlantis, with illustrations and commentary.
		Ion: Socrates examines the poets and poetry, that they are moved by inspiration and artistry more than, or rather, as well as, a type of rational comprehension.
		The same and the different is further discussed in the dialogue Timaeus.
	www.theplatonicsolid.com /table_contents.htm (1951 words)

	Plato
		All that he did was done rationally in and by himself, and he moved in a circle turning within himself, which is the most intellectual of motions; but the other six motions were wanting to him; wherefore the universe had no feet or legs.
		When reason is in the neighbourhood of sense, and the circle of the other or diverse is moving truly, then arise true opinions and beliefs; when reason is in the sphere of thought, and the circle of the same runs smoothly, then intelligence is perfected.
		And God made the sun and moon and five other wanderers, as they are called, seven in all, and to each of them he gave a body moving in an orbit, being one of the seven orbits into which the circle of the other was divided.
	academic.udayton.edu /BradHume/hst340/plato.htm (2046 words)

	Atlantis behind the myth: No way, no how, no where - Special report Skeptical Inquirer - Find Articles
		Atlantis is first mentioned in two dialogues written by Plato, the Timaeus and the Critias.
		In the Timaeus, Plato presents a dialogue between Socrates, Critias, Hermocrates, and Timaeus.
		In the dialogue Critias, he continues his account of Atlantis, giving further details about the origins of the society, the geography, and the culture.
	www.findarticles.com /p/articles/mi_m2843/is_1_26/ai_80924585 (862 words)

	Timaeus, by Plato (timaeus)
		SOCRATES: To be sure I will: the chief theme of my yesterday’s discourse was the State—how constituted and of what citizens composed it would seem likely to be most perfect.
		The prelude is charming, and is already accepted by us—may we beg of you to proceed to the strain?
		In the interior of every animal the hottest part is that which is around the blood and veins; it is in a manner an internal fountain of fire, which we compare to the network of a creel, being woven all of fire and ext
	etext.library.adelaide.edu.au /p/plato/p71ti/timaeus.html (13479 words)

	Miller Paper Abstract (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-12)
		In having Timaeus portray the forms as "models" "to" which the demiurge "looks" in fashioning the world, Plato in the Timaeus appears to resume the language and imagery that he earlier challenged in the Parmenides.
		I suggest instead that the Timaeus is written to speak to two audiences at once.
		On the one hand, as part of the moral-political project that Socrates proposes and Critias, Timaeus, and Hermocrates accept in the opening exchanges of the dialogue, it is addressed to a thoughtful but not Academic readership; its language is keyed to this audience.
	www.nd.edu /~timaeus/miller.html (244 words)

	Freeland, The Moral Incoherence of the Timaeus (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-12)
		The opening dialogue reminds us of plans for an ideal state wherein women are equal (and rational), but in the Timaeus' cosmological scheme, clearly they are inferior (and irrational).
		The nature of the Timaeus as Platonic dialogue or doctrine is indeterminable: the "eikos muthos" is both (deceptive) semblance and (veridical) likeness.
		And I went on to say that it used as likenesses those very things [Level Three] which are themselves the originals of a lower order of likenesses [Level Four], and that relative to the likenesses [of Level Four], the originals [Level Two] command respect and admiration for their distinctness.
	www.uh.edu /~cfreelan/courses/timaeusincoherence.html (317 words)

	Plato - Timaeus - Philosophy Index
		PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: Socrates, Critias, Timaeus, Hermocrates.
		SOCRATES: To be sure I will: the chief theme of my yesterday's discourse was the State - how constituted and of what citizens composed it would seem likely to be most perfect.
		The prelude is charming, and is already accepted by us - may we beg of you to proceed to the strain?
	www.philosophy-index.com /plato/timaeus (13415 words)

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