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 John Adams: Defence of the Constitutions: Vol. I, Letter XLIII
Atreus, king of Argos and Mycene, was the son of Pelops, and father of Agamemnon, who was the father of Orestes, who was the father of Tisamenus: Pelops, after whom Peloponnesus was named, was the son of Tantalus, a king of Phrygia; and Tantalus was the son of Jupiter, by the nymph Plota.
Tisamenus, flying from Sparta, upon the return of the Heraclidæ governed in Achaia, and was the first king of that people.
Tisamenus made the thirteenth, and was first among equals at least.
www.constitution.org /jadams/ja1_43.htm   (1172 words)

  
 House of Pelops
Fifty years after the death of the Hyllus, the exiled Heraclids (descendants of Heracles) invaded the Peloponnesus, under the leadership of Aristomachus, grandson of Hyllus.
Tisamenus was the son of Orestes and Hermione.
Tisamenus would have preferred to go into exile in Achaea, but the Heraclid leaders murdered him and buried him in Helice, in Achaea.
www.timelessmyths.com /classical/pelops.html   (4035 words)

  
 Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, page 1152 (v. 3)   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-11)
Supposing this to be a promise of distinction as an athlete, he devoted himself to gymnastic exercises, and on one occasion was very near winning the prize for the pentathlum at Olympia.
This he refused to do on any terms short of re­ceiving the full franchise of their city, whereupon the Spartans at first indignantly broke off the ne­gotiation, but afterwards professed their readiness to yield the point.
Tisamenus then rising in his demands, stipulated for the same privilege on be­half of his brother Hegias, and this also was granted him.
ancientlibrary.com /smith-bio/3486.html   (1062 words)

  
 Orestes Info - Bored Net - Boredom   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-11)
Marrying Hermione and seizing Argos and Arcadia after their thrones had become vacant, Orestes became ruler of all the Peloponnesus.
His son, Tisamenus, was later killed by the Heracleidae.
The story of Orestes was the subject of the Oresteia of Aeschylus (Agameinnon, Choephori, Eumenides), of the Electra of Sophocles, of the Electra, Iphigeneia in Tauris, and Orestes, of Euripides.
www.borednet.com /e/n/encyclopedia/o/or/orestes.html   (1201 words)

  
 Herodotus - The Histories - Page 1448
The Grecian sacrifice was offered by Tisamenus, the son of Antiochus, who accompanied the army as soothsayer.
Tisamenus had gone to Delphi to consult the god concerning his lack of offspring, when it was declared to him by the Pythoness that he would win five very glorious combats.
They therefore sought to induce Tisamenus to hire out his services to them, in order that they might join him with their Heracleid kings in the conduct of their wars.
www.galileolibrary.com /ebooks/eu04/herodotus_page_1448.htm   (297 words)

  
 Pelopids and Heraclids — the "Dorian Invasion"   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-11)
Finally, Tisamenus, Orestes' son by Hermione, the daughter of Helen, inherits the throne.
The Heracleidae ("children of Heracles") return to the Peloponnese, led by Hyllus, the son of Heracles, and Iolaus, Heracles' nephew, and contend with the Pelopidae ("children of Pelops") for possession of the Peloponnese.
The Heracleidae base their claim to power on their descent, through Heracles, from Perseus, the founder of Mycenae, whereas Tisamenus was a Pelopid whom the Heracleidae regard as a usurper.
mkatz.web.wesleyan.edu /thucydides_lecture/sixty_d.htm   (163 words)

  
 HERACLIDES, Greek Mythology Link - www.maicar.com
The HERACLIDES claimed power in the Peloponnesus because they were descended, through Heracles 1, from Perseus 1, founder of Mycenae, while Tisamenus 2, who at the time ruled the Peloponnessus, was a Pelopid (descendant of Pelops 1) [see also Pelopides].
The HERACLIDES claimed power in the Peloponnesus because they were descended, through Heracles 1, from Perseus 1, the founder of Mycenae, while Tisamenus 2 was a Pelopid, a descendant of Pelops 1 [see also Pelopides].
But Hyllus 1 supposed that the third crop signified three years, and having waited that time, he returned with his army to Peloponnesus, when Tisamenus 2, son of Orestes 2, son of Agamemnon, was ruling the Peloponnesus.
homepage.mac.com /cparada/GML/HERACLIDES.html   (2235 words)

  
 Achaea, Greek Mythology Link - www.maicar.com
However, when after the Trojan War the HERACLIDES invaded the Peloponnesus—claiming that their rulers, being descended from Pelops 1, were usurpers—the Achaeans were forced to leave Argolis.
The ruler of both Argives and Achaeans at the time was Tisamenus 2, who inherited the throne of Orestes 2, son Agamemnon, son of Atreus, son of Pelops 1.
The latter were defeated, but Tisamenus 2 was killed in battle, though others say that he was killed on another occasion by the HERACLIDES.
homepage.mac.com /cparada/GML/Achaea.html   (1095 words)

  
 A Smaller History of Greece - Chapter IV
Tisamenus, the son of Orestes, was defeated and retired with a portion of his Achaean subjects to the northern coast of Peloponnesus, then occupied by the Ionians.
He expelled the Ionians, and took possession of the country, which continued henceforth to be inhabited by the Achaeans, and to be called after them.
The kingdom of Elis was given to Oxylus as a recompense for his services as their guide; and it was agreed that Temenus, Cresphontes, and Eurysthenes and Procles, the infant sons of Aristodemus (who had died at Naupactus), should draw lots for Argos, Sparta, and Messenia.
www.worldwideschool.org /library/books/hst/european/ASmallerHistoryofGreece/chap4.html   (3976 words)

  
 The Internet Classics Archive | The History of Herodotus by Herodotus
The Grecian sacrifice was offered by Tisamenus, the son of Antiochus, who accompanied the army as soothsayer: he was an Elean, and belonged to the Clytiad branch of the Iamidae, but had been admitted among their own citizens by the Lacedaemonians.
Now his admission among them was on this wise:- Tisamenus had gone to Delphi to consult the god concerning his lack of offspring, when it was declared to him by the Pythoness that he would win five very glorious combats.
Hereon the Lacedaemonians perceived that the combats of which the oracle spoke were not combats in the games, but battles: they therefore sought to induce Tisamenus to hire out his services to them, in order that they might join him with their Heracleid kings in the conduct of their wars.
classics.mit.edu /Herodotus/history.9.ix.html   (9762 words)

  
 Heraclids
Tisamenus, son of Orestes, confronted the Heraclids, with army from Argos and Sparta.
In the war that followed, the Heraclids were finally given victories in their battles.
Tisamenus, the son of Orestes, and king of both Argos and Sparta, was killed.
www.timelessmyths.com /classical/heraclids.html   (1834 words)

  
 LRB | James Davidson : I told you so!   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-11)
The most illustrious Greek seer in the historical period was an Olympian Iamid called Tisamenus, son of the seer Antiochus, who had gone to Delphi (Olympia’s ‘sister’ shrine) to ask the god about his childlessness.
Tisamenus thought the oracle about the five contests meant he was destined to win the pentathlon, trained for it and in fact very nearly did win it, but failed at the last hurdle.
When the X was tilted slightly to become the cross of crucifixion, one of three on Golgotha, Tisamenus’ beloved butterflying Victory was transmogrified into Constantine’s Christian angel, not hovering uncertainly, but sent down from Lord God direct.
www.lrb.co.uk /v26/n23/davi02_.html   (7101 words)

  
 Mycenae - Dilos Holiday World
Orestes and his sister Electra, the children of Agamemnon, took revenge for this murder, and Orestes became king of Mycenae.
During the rule of his son, Tisamenus, the descendants of Herakles returned and claimed their birthright by force, thus satisfying the wrath of the gods and the curse of Atreus.
In the 17th century BC, Mycenae began an extraordinary growth in wealth and power that was to influence all of the eastern Mediterranean.
www.dilos.com /location/588   (736 words)

  
 House of Sparta
Orestes' son, Tisamenus, was the last king to rule Sparta and Argos, before the arrival of the Dorians.
But according to Pausanias, Nicostratus' mother was the slave woman, so that would make him the brother of Megapenthes; in this account, her husband's illegitimate sons drove Helen out of Sparta, after Menelaus' death.
Tisamenus lost both Argos and Sparta to the Heraclids.
www.timelessmyths.com /classical/sparta.html   (3706 words)

  
 The Dorian Invasion 2   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-11)
The Heracleidae invade again, under the leadership of Aristomachus, the son of Hyllus and Heracles' grandson.
But Aristomachus is slain in combat with Tisamenus and his army, and the Heracleidae withdraw once again.
Upon consulting the oracle again, the Heracleidae are told that "the third crop" referred to the third generation of Heracles' descendants.
mkatz.web.wesleyan.edu /thucydides_lecture/sixty_e.htm   (258 words)

  
 The Baldwin Project: The Story of the Persian War by Alfred J. Church
To this Tisamenus, inquiring about his childlessness, there was given an oracle that he should be the winner in five very great [266] contests.
And Tisamenus, perceiving that they were changed, said, "Ye must give the citizenship not to me only but to my brother also." To them only have the Spartans given their citizenship.
So Tisamenus offered sacrifice, and the signs were for good luck if the Greeks staid in their place, but for bad if they crossed the Asopus.
www.mainlesson.com /display.php?author=church&book=persian&story=plataea   (3781 words)

  
 Pausanias, on Sparta   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-11)
(5)...On the return of the Heracleidai in the reign of Tisamenus, son of Orestes, both districts, Messene and Argos, had kings put over them; Argos had Temenos and Messene had Cresphontes.
In Lacedaemon, as the sons of Aristodemus were twins, there arose two royal houses; for they say that the Pythian Priestess approved.
But the more correct account is that Aristodemus was murdered by the sons of Pylades and Electra, who were cousins of Tisamenus, son of Orestes.
www.csun.edu /~hcfll004/pausan.html   (281 words)

  
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When Cadmus of Tyros (Tyre), sailing northwards from Sidon in Phoenicia, put ashore at Calliste, the island north of Crete later called Thera (Santorini), he left on this island a group of settlers under the leadership of Membliarus, son of Poeciles.
Calliste came to be called Thera because many generations later Theras, son of Autesion, son of Tisamenus, son of Thersander, son of Polynices, son of Oedipus, son of Laius, son of Labdacus, son of Polydorus, son of Cadmus, came to the island to claim his rights.
On Theras' arrival to Calliste the descendants of Membliarus gave up the kingship to him of their own accord, for they considered that Theras' family went back to Cadmus himself.
www.lycos.com /info/phoenicia--bce-sidon.html   (784 words)

  
 Ancient History Sourcebook: Pausanias: Description of Greece, Book II: Corinth
On the death of Orestes, there succeeded to the throne Tisamenus, the son of Orestes and of Hermione, the daughter of Menelaus.
[2.18.7] It was in the reign of this Tisamenus that the Heracleidae returned to the Peloponnesus; they were Temenus and Cresphontes, the sons of Aristomachus, together with the sons of the third brother, Aristodemus, who had died.
So Tisamenus and his sons went with his army to the land that is now Achaia.
www.fordham.edu /halsall/ancient/pausanias-bk2.html   (20659 words)

  
 Tisamenus (1) * People, Places, & Things * Greek Mythology: From the Iliad to the Fall of the Last Tyrant
Tisamenus (1) * People, Places, and Things * Greek Mythology: From the Iliad to the Fall of the Last Tyrant
andquot;People, Places andamp; Things: Tisamenus (1)andquot;, Greek Mythology: From the Iliad to the Fall of the Last Tyrant.
This format will link back to this page, which may be useful but may not be required.
www.messagenet.com /myths/ppt/Tisamenus_1.html   (225 words)

  
 EXCHANGE AND REPLY: Charles Hedrick, John Marincola, Ellen O'Gorman, John Moles
This is the much-debated decree of Tisamenus, as quoted and contextualised by Andocides, On the Mysteries 81-5.
Translations such as 'examine' or 'read' are too specific and restricted and often needlessly prejudicial; further discussion of the translation question (which involves the question of function [mentioned in the main text]: (mere) display or genuine information?) in Hed.
The effect of this controversy on the questions with which the present discussion are concerned is rather double-edged: on the one hand, Sealey's case that the Decree of Tisamenus allowed for more or less substantial 'revision' of Athenian laws is in this respect (but not necessarily in others) weakened (see further n.
www.dur.ac.uk /Classics/histos/1999/molesexchange.html   (7881 words)

  
 OkCupid! Comparing YFNK and tisamenus   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-11)
Here's a comparison of the personalities of YFNK and tisamenus.
tisamenus: I have recently survived a testing period of anguish, in which I tried to prove myself in a career I absolutely hated, but forced myself to endure because I had chosen it for myself.
Now, I am doing a job related to the one I was doing before (that I hated, right?), which takes all the essence of why I chose to do the job and distils it into something enjoyable which I get paid more for.
www.okcupid.com /compare?x=YFNK&y=tisamenus   (593 words)

  
 Orestes (mythology) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
He seized Argos and Arcadia after their thrones had become vacant, Orestes became ruler of all the Peloponnesus.
His son by Hermione, Tisamenus, became ruler after him but was eventually killed by the Heracleidae.
There is extant a Latin epic poem, consisting of about 1000 hexameters, called Orestes Tragoedia, which has been ascribed to Dracontius of Carthage.
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Orestes   (950 words)

  
 Gatorsports.com :: 100 years of Gator Football   (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-11)
Cadmus was the first king of Thebes; but the city was originally called Cadmeia, and (according to myth) it only became known as Thebes during the reign of Amphion and Zethus, after the latter's wife Thebe.
Cadmus was immediately succeeded by his grandson Pentheus, who met a tragic end after falling foul of the young god Dionysus.
His son Tisamenus was too young at the time to lead the Boeotian contingent; but he later came of age while the war was still going on, and entered the war close to its conclusion.
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 kings
The Lacedaemonians declare, contradicting therein all of the poets, that it was king Aristodemus himself, son of Aristomachus, grandson of Cleodaeus, and great - grandson of Hyllus, who conducted them to the land which they now posses, and not the sons of Aristodemus.
The wife of Aristodemus, whose name (they say) was Argeia, and whose daughter of Autesion, son of Tisamenus, grandson of Thersander, and great - grandson of Polynices, within a little while after their coming into the country, gave birth to twins.
Aristodemus just lived to see his children, but died soon afterwards of a disease.
spartan-world.de /kings.html   (334 words)

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