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	SVRIDER.COM - "Laziness and Lean Angles: Inefficiency Just For the Fun of It."
		I don't use trailbraking on the street unless I've done something thoroughly stupid, and it is a last ditch effort to stay upright.
		Trailbraking with the front brake is something you must practice.
		It is amazing how much front brake you can use leaned over in a corner, but you'll never know how far you can be leaned over, or how much brake you can use unless you practice until becomes instinctive and reactive.
	www.svrider.com /articles/2001feb_story1.htm (1755 words)

	Trailbraking (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-18)
		Trailbraking is a term used to describe carrying the braking action of a vehicle past the turn entry.
		In motorcycle parlance, the rider applies either or both brakes at varying braking pressure between the front/rear.
		The pressure to use is determined by the rider's entry speed, lean angle, and other factors.
	www.totalbike.com /wiki/Trailbraking (138 words)

	NASIOC - good trailbraking article in this months sports car
		trailbraking is faster from the point where the SIFO driver applies the brakes until the apex.
		In this case, the straights were very short, creating a situation where trailbraking line (and the inside radius line) had a significant advantage over the SIFO line.
		THEORY: Trailbraking is ALWAYS faster as it allows the driver the opportunity to keep the tires on the outside edge of the traction circle.
	forums.nasioc.com /forums/showthread.php?p=10069145#post10069145 (2897 words)

	I guess my def. of 'trailbraking' would resolve this... (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-18)
		Trailbraking, in my book, means using the rear brake 90% of the time.
		All in all, I don't consider trailbraking to be something you use in a panic/emergency situation.
		Trailbraking is something you do as a means to an end..
	ninja250.kingston.net /board/cgi-bin/article.cgi?230172 (279 words)

	i-Club -- Forums - How To Properly Drive a WRX? (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-18)
		Trailbraking gives nice turn in and will give nice rotation for as long as you stay on the brakes.
		Trailbrake almost to the apex, have the car over-rotated by the apex to compensate for the understeer that will unfortunately bring the car all the way out to the exit.
		The stock brakes are fine for trailbraking, as long as you're using a hot enough pad for the application.
	www.i-club.com /forums/showthread.php?t=51218&page=2&pp=20 (1255 words)

	Trailbreaking - What is it and what are its advantages/disadvantages - South Bay Riders
		Trailbraking is the use of brakes through a turn.
		So, trailbraking is a fairly advance technique, being that you are fighting the bike at a certain point.
		Trailbraking is, imho, a skill which should be understood and mastered as soon as possible.
	www.southbayriders.com /forums/showthread.php?t=1822 (2479 words)

	b15sentra.net forums - How to Trailbrake? (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-18)
		Location: Stewartstown, PA I think those that were argueing that trailbraking would cause a accident were talking about the 16-17-18 yearold jumping into there cars and trying this on a lonely cornor.
		Trailbraking is not as bad as it seems, as long as u dont over do it.
		Location: Atlanta, GA Trailbraking is a technique where as you start your turn into the corner, you are still slowing the car with the brakes in an attempt to cause the car's rear end to slowly rotate and aid you in turning the car.
	www.b15sentra.net /forums/showthread.php?t=105747&page=2 (1506 words)

	Trailbraking - DCSportbikes.COM (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-18)
		With stock forks under braking load, the piston will not allow any more fluid to pass, so when you are trailbraking and you hit a small bump, or need to make some input, the suspension will lock up and make your front skid.
		My suggestion, if you're thinking about trying trailbraking (remember, this is not rear braking the rear tire loose motard style, this is just continuing to brake past the turn-in point), try it in moderation.
		as for trailbraking: if you want to learn, just do this - instead of letting off the brakes as you come close to turning in, just release most of the presure but keep 1 finger or 2 and very slight pressure so you won't let the brake out all the way.
	www.dcsportbikes.com /forums/249118/ShowPost.aspx (1701 words)

	here....trailbraking for beginners (archive) (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-18)
		The trailbraking technique is really very simple in principle, but takes much practice to master effectively.
		Essentially we use trailbraking to keep the vehicle at it's maximum traction capability between the two extremes; the straightline extreme of maximum 100% braking traction and the cornering extreme of maximum 100% cornering (sideload) traction.
		If you want to win any type of driving competition in a Z3 you must learn to use the trailbraking technique to its fullest as the transition from straightline to apex is one of the areas that the Z3 chassis out-excels many other vehicles.
	bimmer.roadfly.org /z3/messages/archive/msgsy2000w10/38321.html (306 words)

	GTTimes :: View topic - Trail Braking in GT - inefficient or effective? (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-18)
		Naturally, trailbraking is much easier and more controllable with pedals.
		To add to what BK said: trailbraking lets you brake a little later, but then the corner must be steered as a decreasing radius turn, tightening the line as you ease off the brake, with an increasing-radius exit as you roll on the throttle at the apex.
		Trailbraking more efficient (and thus faster), as Bob noted, but more difficult to execute well, since you're right on the edge of the friction circle all the time, with no margin of error.
	forums.gttimes.com /viewtopic.php?t=9511 (1521 words)

	NASIOC - good trailbraking article in this months sports car
		Once you've mastered that, you can slowly increase the amount of trailbraking that is used.
		The previous poster in the other thread gave an example that if you're going to save.2 seconds by trailbraking, but lose 2mph of speed leading onto a straight, you'll ultimately lose lap time if you choose that method over a nice SIFO.
		If you are slower while using trailbraking, you haven't completely mastered it yet.
	forums.nasioc.com /forums/showthread.php?s=901484f884e91f533f84eb6bcaa6a397&goto=newpost&t=786556 (2897 words)

	Trailbraking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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		The use of trailbraking allows the rider to adjust speed all the way through a turn, and can allow the rider to set the motorcycle's cornering speed at the apex of the turn -- the slowest point of a corner -- or even past the apex, if necessary.
		This technique is commonly used when racing, but can enhance control and add more evasive options for advanced street riders.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Trailbraking (185 words)

	Skip Barber Racing School
		Shifting down to 3rd gear while trailbraking at just before the 2 marker to get pointed for the exit of the first apex and carrying the slide for the second apex and a quick exit at driver's right.
		Trailbrake into the corner at the 3 marker, downshifting into 2nd.
		The idea here is to slightly over slow the car so you can get the rear end to come around and power hard out of the corner for a high exit speed and a high top speed down the straight.
	www.beesandgoats.com /skip/school.html (2512 words)

	Corner-Carvers Forums - Ways to push less in Auto-x corners
		Trailbraking is part of going around the cones fast, no doubt about it.
		A trailbraking tip I often share with novices is to imagine a string between your steering wheel and the brake.
		During actual racing, trailbraking is often used even more, as traffic dictates mid-corner braking and passing requires too-late braking to get by on the inside.
	forums.corner-carvers.com /archive/index.php/t-1655.html (7436 words)

	Caution! It induces oversteer! (more) (archive) (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-18)
		Further one must be careful when using trailbraking on the track especially at high speeds because it induces oversteer.
		Accordingly, if too much trailbraking is applied at too high a speed you may cause a spin.
		Screw around with trailbraking to see what it can do in a controlled environment, not on the street.
	bimmer.roadfly.org /z3/messages/archive/msgsy2000w10/38349.html (149 words)

	WHY are there so many red flags ? - NESBA Bulletin Board
		While excessive trailbraking, or not getting back onto maintenance throttle soon enough are technically the likely causes, the fact is that I entered the corner faster than I had previously entered it that day, and my line was completely off.
		If you insist on being mesmerized by the alluring mysteries of trailbraking, then, and only then, would my advice be to do it lightly and be sure that you are coming off the brake up to the apex.
		My diagnosis, not that you asked, is that "trailbraking" works for you now only because you are not going fast enough (except for your crash?) for it to have scared the shit out of you yet.
	www.nesba.com /TrackTalk/bb/Forum8/HTML/001820-3.html (3223 words)

	Panic braking - NBSR Forums
		Many riders don't look far enough ahead (especially at speed) and they end up out riding their brain, by that I mean, instead of planning what they are gonna do in the turn coming up...they just react to the situation as it happens, and sometimes get caught off gaurd resulting in the dreaded "blown turn".
		If you are using brakes (trailbraking or hard-braking) constantly for non-track twisty riding, fundamentally, you need to re-think about your speed and pace.
		Trailbraking and hanging-off (half-an-ass, or full hang-off) are skills to have.
	www.northbaysportriders.com /forums/index.php?showtopic=2305 (2675 words)

	motorcycles
		This is a highly skilled (and generally illegal) maneuver which requires practice to perfect.
		Trailbraking is a term used to describe carrying the braking action of a vehicle past the turn entry, allowing the rider to adjust speed all the way through a turn to the apex.
		Another variation of brake use can be seen at top level motorcycle roadracing and motorcross events.
	www.go4search.com /encyclopedia/motorcycles (4428 words)

	2003 Chevy S-10 SCCA Hawaii Class FSP Champ
		If we were to slam on the brakes and jerk the steering wheel around, this will put a lot of load on our suspension and cause our tires to loose traction.
		Trailbraking is light and diminishing brake pressure while turning into a corner, and trucks don‘t take well to trailbraking.
		While on the street, at normal speed, this is safe and acceptable, but at high speeds on the track, this can cause you to loose control.
	www.cardomain.com /ride/515521/10 (1245 words)

	Racerplanet Network Forums - Looking for help on The Ring
		Greger uses a technique like a lot of the faster GPL guys, called trailbraking - basically using the gas and brake to balance the car through the corner (with these cars having no downforce, you have to slide them to be fast)...
		Look up trailbraking, you'll get the hang of it once you get into the Physics of GPL and how it all handles...
		Instead of trailbraking, some corners can be taken by approaching them a little fast, then letting off the gas and cranking the steering wheel, the car will slow down and corner, and not spin.
	www.racerplanet.com /forum/showthread.php?t=4083 (2467 words)

	Alturas
		Jim Clark, maestro en el uso del Trailbraking recortaba las trazadas entrando en las curvas antes que la mayoría de pilotos de entonces, más ceñído, más por dentro, recorriendo menos metros.
		Para ver mejor cómo se hace el trailbraking observa una repetición de un WR en Nurburgring, donde la gran cantidad de curvas requiere rápidas reacciones y leves improvisaciones del piloto durante la conducción.
		Más difícil es detectar la combinación del gas/freno en el afinadísimo trailbraking usado en circuitos más cortos, sabidos y practicados, como el usado por Leonardo Grandis en Monza en su WR (1:26:23).
	personal.telefonica.terra.es /web/montaspre/gpl_setups/temas/trailbraking.htm (592 words)

	Online Encyclopedia and Dictionary - Motorcycle
		This is a highly skilled (and generally illegal) maneuver which requires practice to perfect.
		Trailbraking is a term used to describe carrying the braking action of a vehicle past the turn entry, allowing the rider to adjust speed all the way through a turn to the apex.
		Another variation of brake use can be seen at top level motorcycle roadracing and motorcross events.
	fact-archive.com /encyclopedia/Motorcycle (5861 words)

	Trackpedia - Advanced Driving Guide
		In tighter, slower, hair-pin like turns, trailbraking can be an effective technique to get the car rotated through the turn, and to overlap the braking zone with the turning zone.
		In terms of newbies learning to drive on the track - he felt that the 'braking in a straight line' technique that many instructors teach may not be the best - after all, you are essentially teaching a student how to do something incorrectly.
		That said, Ross stated that many drivers develop trail braking naturally - and that if that is the case with a student, an instructor shouldn't discourage the trail braking student, provided he's doing the technique properly and for the right corners.
	www.trackpedia.com /wiki/Advanced_Driving_Guide (791 words)

	FWD drift? - beyond.ca car forums community for automotive enthusiasts
		trailbraking makes the car more stable...and if you really wanna do it, go to any tire shop, see if theyll give you some bald-ass tires, have them mounted on steelies and put those on before drifting
		adam manages to lock up his rear wheels in the corners with trailbraking in his fwd car, and not doubt the car would slide if pushed hard enough.
		If you are still on the brakes hard enough after the turn-in point to lock them up, you aren't trailbraking, you just entered the corner way too fast to begin with.
	forums.beyond.ca /showthread/t-26222.html (2146 words)

	dfwmiata.com - Only one wheel locked???
		One thing to remember is that if you're trailbraking down into a lefthand corner, the inside front tire is the most lightly loaded front tire, and it will lock first.
		Because if it isn't, then all you're doing is just slightly overbraking - you've got the straightline braking threshold down, you just need to adjust your input for trailbraking down into corners where one front wheel is loaded more than the other.
		Unless your car is smoking the left tire first in straightline braking or right turns, I'd be inclined to believe that the problem lies more with the driver than the equipment.
	forums.dfwmiata.com /printthread.php?t=146 (557 words)

	Braking - NBSR Forums
		There is a speed where trailbraking isn't very useful or effective -- you're just going too slow.
		Trailbraking is also definitely more useful if you're going fast -- it extends your braking zone.
		One thing I haven't seen mentioned here and the new people should know is if you try this be very careful as some bikes have a major tendency to stand up when the front brake is applied in a turn.
	www.northbaysportriders.com /forums/index.php?act=findpost&pid=7886 (2787 words)

	Wrench Wench Motorwear and Accessories
		To deal with this, I put a LOT of weight on the outside peg, and give a good hefty amount of throttle, holding it steady, and adjust my speed with the clutch.
		Also, if you are trailbraking, you need to use a lot of finesse in a right turn, because it is easy to put to much weight on that back brake when you push on the pedal.
		Again, the solution for me is to keep the weight on the outside peg.
	www.wrench-wench.com /pages/Biker101-turns.htm (252 words)

	CycleForums Archive - Trail braking
		Its somewhat different than the trailbraking ya see in those Superbike races where riders go around the corner with the rear wheel sliding sideways semi locked up but this exercise we did REALLY helped with panic induced controlled stops or changes of direction.
		Any rider can practice this by going to any open parking lot and putting down some empty soda cans and then riding toward them at varying LOW speeds and deciding which cans to turn thru as they get closer and closer.
		What you also have to remember, is that as you brake, the bike will tend to 'stand-up' and push to the outside of the curve, and as you come off the brakes, it will tend to 'fall-in', so you have to be prepared to dynamically adjust your countersteering/lean to compensate.
	www.cycleforums.com /forums/showthread/t-40171.html (1616 words)

	DSMtuners - View Single Post - Lateral grip vs weight transfer
		Excessive trailbraking can unsettle and even spin almost any car if applied too much.
		Most I have driven either communicate their intention to spin or have a high threshold.
		My high rear spring rates made it very unsafe for me to even think about trailbraking in the wet.
	www.dsmtuners.com /forums/showpost.php?s=4ab9a24af6efd284049f6e0e8a1f87b6&p=1453798&postcount=21 (283 words)

	Re: TORSEN CENTER - OPEN FRONT!! (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-18)
		Slow in, fast out applies here, and is, to my knowledge the best approach for fast consistent laps, especially in cars such as ours.
		Trailbraking followed by acceleration unsettles the car's balance much more than a steady-state entry followed by progressively increasing throttle application.
		There are different schools of thought here, but the only time I will ever trailbrake is when I've obviously either missed my brake point or I'm carrying WAY too much speed into the turn.
	www.audifans.com /archives/1998/03/msg00292.html (210 words)

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