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	Did She Really Say "Yes"?
		In fact, the girl to whom the murderer actually spoke the words "do you believe in God?" Valeen Schnurr, said "yes" and she was spared.
		It followed up on Tuesday, after the paper was able to interview Valeen Schnurr, the young Columbine student who was asked by one of the killers if she believed in God -- after she'd been shot.
		On Tuesday the Denver Post reported her account, which she also told to Salon News: Schnurr was down on her hands and knees bleeding, already hit by 34 shotgun pellets, when one of the killers approached her.
	www.lhup.edu /~dsimanek/salon.htm (2112 words)

	CNN Transcript - CNN Insight: The Legacy of Columbine - April 21, 2000
		VALEEN SCHNURR: I was under the table in the library on April 20 at Columbine, and I was studying with a bunch of my friends, like, during lunch like we'd always done, and then a teacher came in the library.
		DAVID MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A year ago, Valeen Schnurr, "Val" to her friends and family, had just turned 18, turned heads at the prom, and was turning her sights to graduation and a world full of possibilities.
		M. SCHNURR: How could I know that by lunchtime that she would be riddled by gunshot blasts, screaming for her life, a shrill scream that I have heard on tape, and I will never, ever forget.
	edition.cnn.com /TRANSCRIPTS/0004/21/i_ins.00.html (3939 words)

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		Schnurr was certain that he intended to kill her, but he was distracted and left the area.
		Schnurr travels across the country sharing her testimony with parish youth groups and at church gatherings.
		On weekends, Schnurr usually travels home to be with her family and to attend Mass at her parish, St. Frances Cabrini in Littleton.
	www.catholicherald.com /articles/00articles/schnurr.htm (586 words)

	List Of Injured Columbine Students (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		Valeen was one of several graduates to receive a William Sanders Memorial Scholarship, one of many memorial funds established in an outpouring of worldwide grief that sprang form the shooting.
		She was studying in the library together with her classmates Lauren Townsend, Jeanna Park and Valeen Schnurr when the gunmen came.
		She was studying in the library together with her classmates Lauren Townsend, Lisa Kreutz and Valeen Schnurr when the gunmen came.
	zanazl.tripod.com /Columbine/Victims/Injured (4662 words)

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		Valeen was studying in the library last Tuesday with her good friend Lauren Townsend when a teacher ran in yelling about a gunman and warning the students to take cover.
		Valeen tightly wrapped her sweatshirt around her middle, to keep pressure on her wounds, and tried to carry Lauren out.
		Shari Schnurr was at her job as a dental assistant when a friend called to tell her about a gunman at Columbine.
	www.beyond-the-illusion.com /files/Current-Events/Littleton-Massacre/littletonGirlDidNotForsakeGod.txt (950 words)

	Columbine (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		Valeen Schnurr faced the same fateful question as Bernall, but survived.
		When the gunmen entered the library, Schnurr and a friend huddled together, listening to students being shot as they pleaded for their lives.
		Schnurr later told her mother that she was afraid to say yes, because she had seen what happened to Bernall.
	web.nwc.edu /~djtrouten/html/columbine.htm (775 words)

	Shall Not See Death (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		Valeen was in the library when she heard the gunshots and bomb explosions.
		When the gunmen entered the library, Valeen hid but she saw what happened to Cassie.
		Valeen began to ramble that her parents had taught her about God, etc. Then she sank to the floor and began crawling away.
	cogsc.info /sr051599.htm (467 words)

	Cassie Bernall Said "Yes" When Asked about her faith by a shooter at Columbine-Disputed!
		According to the article, Scott was later able to point to where the gunman was at that time that he heard the exchange, but that he indicated a table where a different student, Valeen Schnurr, had been hiding.
		Schnurr's mother says Valeen was lying wounded on the library floor and was praying when one of the gunmen approached her and asked if she believed in God.
		The News quotes another student who was in the library during the shootings, Joshua Lapp, as saying he is still sure of his memory of the event and that Cassie was asked about her belief and did respond by saying "yes" before she was shot.
	www.truthorfiction.com /rumors/c/cassie.htm (676 words)

	THE DAY THEY CAN NEVER FORGET
		VALEEN SCHNURR: MOVING ON Last fall, Valeen Schnurr packed up her belongings, kissed her parents good-bye, and headed off to college.
		Valeen and five classmates were in the library studying when Harris and Klebold came in shooting.
		Though Valeen kept a 3.6 grade point average at Columbine, she has been having a tough time focusing on her schoolwork at college.
	shs.westport.k12.ct.us /jwb/Psychology/AbPsych/ColumbinePTS.htm (2247 words)

	deseretnews.com \| Dealing with trauma tough (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		Talking with people she trusts is how Valeen Schnurr is learning to live with being shot nine times at Columbine High School on April 20, 1999.
		Schnurr was trying to pull her friend out of the library, not realizing that the friend was already dead, when shooters Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold left the room
		Schnurr suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder, which includes nightmares, exaggerated startle responses, intrusive thoughts and depression.
	deseretnews.com /dn/view/0,1249,405010119,00.html (540 words)

	sidney vicious - Mystify me...
		He was walking away when he heard one of the girls, Valeen Schnurr start crying and saying "Oh god help me!".
		The main witness who said that Cassie said yes, was asked afterwards during the investigation to point to the table where he heard this take place, he pointed to the table where Valeen Schnurr had hidden under.
		Valeen Schnurr didn't even say YES when asked if she believed in god!
	www.opendiary.com /entryview.asp?authorcode=A526723&entry=10295 (885 words)

	Injured and Survivors of the Columbine High School shooting
		According to witness testimony in the Columbine Report and her own statement, Valeen was injured when Dylan shot out the trophy case near the main entrance of the library.
		She was at the same table as Lauren Townsend, Jeanna Park and Val Schnurr when the shooting began.
		She lay bleeding in the library for 2 1/2 hours before being rescued and was the last survivor to be pulled from the library.
	columbine.free2host.net /victim/injured.html (2711 words)

	Girl jumps to aid Columbine survivor
		But the girl's real award was last summer when she presented the Schnurr family with a check for $3,000 and a scrapbook filled with notes from the jump-rope-a-thon's 50 participants.
		Valeen Schnurr's mom was Alison's sister's Sunday school teacher.
		She decided Schnurr would be the one she helped.
	www.denver-rmn.com /shooting/0425vol5.shtml (394 words)

	Girl did not forsake God
		Valeen Schnurr went home from the hospital Monday, four bullets still inside her, lodged somewhere next to her indomitable spirit.
		Moments earlier, Valeen saw what happened when Cassie was asked the same question and answered yes.
		Her mother says Valeen prayed constantly as she fought to stay awake and alert.
	autos.rockymountainnews.com /shooting/0427val1.shtml (896 words)

	the punk of poetry: unlearning a myth, rediscovering a hero
		Schnurr was down on her hands and knees bleeding, already hit by 34 shotgun pellets, when one of the killers approached her.
		Schnurr wasn’t killed, but it took just as much courage to affirm her belief.
		These students may not have been martyrs in the true sense of the word, but they were heroes all the same.
	thepunkofpoetry.blogspot.com /2005/02/unlearning-myth-rediscovering-hero.html (729 words)

	Cassie (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		Speaking of logic, it should also be noted that there's a fallacy in the argument that if witnesses confused Schnurr's words for Bernall's, then Cassie never stood up for her faith in the face of death.
		But what's getting lost in the ``Did she or didn't she?" argument the amazing change that was needed in Bernall's life to even get to the point where someone might think she died defending her faith.
		We know that at least one student — Valeen Schnurr — found herself looking down the barrel of a gun held by somebody mocking her faith, and refused to deny her Lord.
	web.nwc.edu /~djtrouten/html/cassie.htm (741 words)

	Cassie Bernall (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		In September, however, after the police had conducted their investigation, they found out that it was actually Valeen Schnurr who had confessed her belief in God, and probably nothing was said to Cassie before she was killed.
		Valeen suffered nine shrapnel wounds and graduated in May. But as Peter Jennings reported as he closed the evening news with this story, Valeen's father said it really doesn't matter who said what.
		Whether the dialogue transpired with Cassie or Valeen, or not at all, the number of people who turned to God because of it, is what matters.
	www.columbine-angels.com /Cassie.htm (312 words)

	George W., Folklorist Timothy Noah
		What investigators now believe really happened is that another girl, Valeen Schnurr, was shot in both arms and then asked if she believed in God.
		Schnurr said yes and, for whatever reason, the assailant wandered off without harming her further.
		(Schnurr recovered and is now a freshman at the University of Northern Colorado.) She Said Yes acknowledges this in a backhanded way, with the caveat that "the exact details of Cassie's death...
	www.slate.com /id/1003954 (702 words)

	Freethinkers Union at UH (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		Fact: There was a girl in the library at Columbine High School who was asked by one of the gunmen if she believed in God.
		Valeen began praying after she was shot and lay bleeding.
		As a gunman was reloading his gun near her, he asked if she really believed in God, she replied "Yes," and explained further.
	www.uh.edu /~freethnk/cassie.html (434 words)

	The Atheist Alliance Web Center \| The Library
		He apparently heard Valeen Schnurr talking with one of the shooters.
		Valeen's story has now appeared in the Denver Post.
		She was down on her hands and knees saying, "Oh, my god, my god, don't let me die." One of the shooters then asked her if she believed in god.
	www.atheistalliance.org /library/colombine_martyr.html (626 words)

	columbine suit - www.ezboard.com
		U.S. District Judge Lewis T. Babcock said the statute of limitations had expired and that Valeen Schnurr, who was shot 15 times in the April 20, 1999, attack, had not shown that the time limit should be extended.
		Schnurr and her family sued Jefferson County officials and "John Doe" officers, claiming she didn't get proper medical care after she escaped from the school.
		The suit said she was shifted among three police cars and handed over to civilians in a golf cart before someone realized how seriously she was wounded.
	p076.ezboard.com /fcrtfcrtfmainforum.showMessage?topicID=2629.topic (135 words)

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		Valeen Schnurr was on the ground, having already been shot by one of the attackers.
		He didn't actually see those involved, and when he pointed to the location of the voice he had heard in the library, he actually pointed to the table where Valeen had been hiding, not Cassie.
		Local authorities and media admitted to knowing about these issues and the media also said that it was conflicted over exploring the controversy.
	www.blogger.com /email-post.g?blogID=6509690&postID=110960844100342915 (534 words)

	FINAL COLUMBINE REPORT: NO MENTION OF "MARTYRDOM" EXECUTIONS, CHRISTIANS BEING "TARGETED"
		The report then discusses Valeen Schnurr, who had been injured by Klebold while she was under table 2.
		It is at this point that Valeen Schnurr was suggested as the student who might have had a conversation with Klebold or Harris.
		The murder of Valeen Schnurr took place at the east side of the room, with one witness proximate.
	www.atheists.org /flash.line/colo12.htm (3222 words)

	Politicizing a tragedy
		In fact, he allowed Valeen, who was seriously wounded, to crawl away, without further harm.
		The Christian community has adopted Cassie Bernall as a symbol of all that is forthright and courageous and virtuous in America, just as they have come to see Klebold and Harris as icons of deviance, immorality, and godlessness.
		Even Valeen Schnurr says she doesn’t mind that this spurious story circulates because it might bring someone to Jesus.
	www.chromehorse.net /rants/rants99/cassie.htm (709 words)

	CBS News \| Update On The Wounded \| December 13, 1999 05:19:05
		He was dragged to safety by officers behind a rescue vehicle, his dramatic rescue watched on live television throughout the U.S. Mark has four bullet wounds in his torso, arm, and legs, and he is a patient at University Hospital, where he's listed in good condition.
		Val Schnurr, 18, was shot eight times and was released from Swedish Medical Center Monday.
		Her mother, Shari Schnurr, tells CBS News Correspondent Cynthia Bowers that Val was under a table in the school library when she was shot in the abdomen.
	www.cbsnews.com /stories/1999/04/27/national/main44619.shtml (1060 words)

	Atheism: A Position of Convenience? Mike Boston (Dialogue) (2-99) (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		Valeen realized that the conversation between her and Kleberg has been bastardized and misattributed, and is now being broadcast around the world.
		Valeen (who was under the table where Craig Scott says he heard Cassie Bernall's "martyrdom" take place) says that while she was praying, Kleberg did ask her (Valeen) if she believed in God.
		It was Valeen who had been praying under the table which Scott pointed out to investigators when asked where he heard Cassie say what he thinks she said.
	www.positiveatheism.org /mail/eml9844.htm (15585 words)

	RE: Spanking is Violence
		Time reports that "the mother of another victim advised [Bernall's mother and the publisher of the book the mother wrote] that Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris may not have asked Cassie if she believed in God just before she was fatally shot last April 20.
		The question may have been put instead to Valeen Schnurr, 18, who lay wounded under another table.
		The mother of Valeen Schnurr asked the publisher to put a "hold" on the book until the facts were in, but apparently the publisher thought it was too good a story not to tell.
	www.mail-archive.com /tips@fre.fsu.umd.edu/msg04688.html (886 words)

	Columbine Graduation Ceremony (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-29)
		The crowd also stood to applaud as diplomas were awarded to National Honor Society members Lisa Kreutz and Jeanna Park, together in public for the first time since the gunmen sprayed them with bullets as they crouched with Lauren and classmate Valeen Schnurr under a table in the school library.
		Jeanna Park plans to attend the University of California at Berkeley in the fall and was recognized Saturday for finishind Columbine in the top 10 percent of her class.
		Valeen Scnurr, another National Honor Society member, was also wounded but was able to walk with the rest of her classmates to receive her diploma.
	zanazl.tripod.com /Columbine/Graduation.html (3339 words)

	SC-Cassie
		Valeen Schnurr, wounded and bleeding, was praying to God to save her.
		One of the shooters asked, "Do you believe in God?" Schnurr said yes; he asked why; she replied, "Because I believe, and my parents brought me up that way." Then she crawled away, and he did not shoot her again.
		Dave McPherson, the Bernalls' pastor, has said that as far as churches are concerned, the story of Cassie's martyrdom is here to stay.
	www.theoccasional.com /Society___Culture/SC-Cassie/sc-cassie.html (661 words)

	Columbine families seek time
		The families of three students wounded in the Columbine High School shootings have asked for more time to convince a federal court that their lawsuit against Jefferson County officials has merit.
		Valeen Schnurr, Jeanna Park, Evan Todd and their families asked U.S. District Court in Denver to give their lawyers until July 31 to respond to the county's motion to dismiss their suit.
		In a motion filed Wednesday and made available by the court Friday, the three families said they needed more time because much of the evidence was in the sheriff's report on the shootings, which was not released until after they filed their lawsuit in April.
	www.denver-rmn.com /shooting/0701col3.shtml (253 words)

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