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	Pro Life?
		The Vatican's "pro life" stance (shared by anti-abortionists and various fundamentalist sects) is a threat to all forms of life including the human species.
		Vatican delegates claimed that such policies would undermine the man's status as head of the family and therefore are harmful to the family unit.
		While the Vatican and its ideological allies, claim to be "pro family" and "pro life", that did not stop Pope John Paul II from supporting brutal and dictatorial regimes in Latin America and elsewhere.
	www.atheistfoundation.org.au /prolife.htm (1872 words)

	Vatican Roulette - FT102
		The persistent illness of Pope John Paul II and rumours in Vatican circles that abdication is now being considered as an alternative to rule by a debilitated pontiff, have fuelled speculation as to who might one day succeed him.
		John Paul II is the first pope to have lived out his mission in the full glare of the media spotlight and those same cameras now transmit every tremor of his shaking fingers as he stumbles through mass or processes into private clinics.
		Although few expect a religion to be run democratically, the irony is not lost that the Vatican's successes east of the Berlin Wall were won at the cost of imposing the same kind of rigorous thought-control at home that it anathematised in the socialist bloc.
	www.forteantimes.com /articles/102_vatican.shtml (719 words)

	Catholic World News (CWN)
		Following the teaching of Vatican II and, in particular, the decree Optatam Totius on priestly formation, the Congregation for Catholic Education has published different documents to promote an adequate formation integral of future priests, offering guidance and precise norms regarding their several aspects.
		From Vatican II until today, several documents of the Magisterium—and especially the Catechism of the Catholic Church— have confirmed the teaching of the Church on homosexuality.
		Deacon Bart: The Vatican has not declared that those who receive holy orders while lying about their moral state (sexual or otherwise) are invalidly ordained.
	www.cwnews.com /news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=40891 (2623 words)

	Catholic Culture : Document Library : Proclaiming the Church's Teaching on Marriage in the Age of Birth Control and ...
		"All the faithful," Vatican II rightly affirms, "whatever their condition or state, each in his own way, are called by the Lord to that perfection of sanctity by which the Father himself is perfect" (Lumen gentium, no. 11).
		In and through baptism Christians commit themselves to live in union with Jesus and to complete, in their own flesh, "what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the Church" (Col 1:24).
		The Church, as Vatican II declared in following Sacred Scripture, is in truth the bride whom "Christ filled with heavenly gifts for all eternity, in order that we may know the love of God and of Christ for us, a love which surpasses all understanding (cf.
	www.catholicculture.org /docs/doc_view.cfm?RecNum=6595 (8204 words)

	The Harvard Crimson :: News :: Pike Derogates Archaic Dogmas
		The controversial Episcopal theologian, who is awaiting trial on charges of heresy, made a rambling speech emphasizing "the triumph of the empirical method" and the decline of faith based only on authority's say-so.
		Pike made sallies against subjects from birth control (don't play "Vatican roulette (the rhythm method), see your doctor,") to the Church doctrine that Christ's mother was' a virgin ("Jesus wasn't prefab").
		On LSD he said, "Hearing about people's trips is like hearing about their operations." He called the drug "instant Zen," saying that some of the insights people get on trips are familiar to students of mysticism.
	www.thecrimson.com /article.aspx?ref=269012 (302 words)

	Page Title
		English and American Protestants accommodated to the demand for family planning in the 1930s to the 1950s, and Roman Catholicism softened its stance to allow the newly discovered "rhythm method" of periodic abstinence.
		By the time the Second Vatican Council was opened in 1962 by the new liberal Pope John XXIII, revolt was stirring among a newly articulate Catholic laity ready to testify that the rhythm method did not work and caused inordinate anxiety in marital relations.
		During the Vatican Council, articles by theologically trained laity and moral theologians criticizing the traditional teachings circulated among the council fathers.
	www.cuc.claremont.edu /interfth/sex1/page11.html (311 words)

	NWAnews.com :: Northwest Arkansas' News Source
		Some conservatives say the problem is that the church went touchy-feely and permissive after Vatican II, and they note that the evangelical sects gaining ground are more morally demanding, not less.
		In the 15 th and 16 th centuries, the Vatican responded to reformers like John Wycliffe and Martin Luther by circling the wagons.
		Unless the Vatican reconnects with ordinary people here in the Catholic heartland, the tens of millions who find spiritual meaning in their pews but have been turned off by many church positions, then the Vatican's obstinacy may yet kindle a Re-Reformation.
	www.nwanews.com /story.php?paper=bcdr§ion=Editorial&storyid=20582 (715 words)

	HNN COMMENTARY - HuntingtonNews.Net
		The result is that many local Catholic parishes have quietly seceded from the Vatican's control on sexual issues.
		The pope can thunder against birth control (other than a method based on timing a woman's cycles, derided by critics as 'Vatican Roulette'), but 70 percent of Brazilian women use artificial contraception.
		The Vatican responded to the challenge of Martin Luther in 1521 by a bridge-burning finality: it excommunicated him and thus gave birth to the Reformation and the schism that became Protestantism.
	www.huntingtonnews.net /editor/050623-mann-commentary.html (802 words)

	Catholic Church to Ease Ban on Condom Use \| Europe \| Deutsche Welle \| 24.04.2006
		One year after the election of Pope Benedict XVI, the Vatican, in a reversal of church doctrine, is prepared to allow the use of condoms to combat AIDS.
		In a victory for reform-minded critics of the Vatican, Pope Benedict XVI has now reversed the Catholic Church's long-standing position with regard to the use of condoms to combat the spread of the HIV virus.
		In the past, the Catholic Church has steadfastly opposed all means of artificial contraception, even the use of condoms for those infected with the HIV virus.
	www.dw-world.de /popups/popup_printcontent/0,,1979145,00.html (489 words)

	Sex and the Body
		The Second Vatican Council in the 1960s gave voice to the various movements seeking to revise Catholic teachings and practice in a number of areas, including the question of the sinfulness of contraception within marriage.
		For the Vatican, Augustine’s views still reign: sex is only for procreation within marriage and its morality sinful outside of that context, even for married heterosexual couples.
		Since the Vatican brooks no debate on these issues, most Catholics who have changed their minds on these issues simply absent themselves from public argument to go their own way in good conscience, selectively practicing those aspects of Catholicism which they find meaningful, such as the liturgy and the teachings on social justice [39].
	www.cuc.claremont.edu /Chaplaincy/Pages/Ruether.htm (7196 words)

	Catholic Devotion and Doubts
		But the more common view here is that the church has squandered its authority with positions that strike parishioners as backward, not uplifting, on divorce, birth control and the role of women.
		That's the tug of war being fought in places like Brazil, with grass-roots priests often trying to stay in tune with parishioners, while the Vatican tries to stay faithful to its values.
		In the 15th and 16th centuries, the Vatican responded to reformers like John Wycliffe and Martin Luther by circling the wagons.
	www.religiousconsultation.org /News_Tracker/Catholic_devotion_and_doubts.htm (661 words)

	Keyword (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		The Vatican today published a sweeping condemnation of contraception, abortion, in-vitro fertilisation and same-sex marriage, declaring that the traditional family has never been so threatened.
		The Vatican is currently engaged in a complex debate—and a major part of it is whether condoms could turn marital sex into something considered evil.
		VATICAN CITY, November 8, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In a meeting with Bishops from Austria Saturday, Pope Benedict XVI warned them against the false notion that church teachings should be watered down so as to prevent people from leaving the Church.
	www.freerepublic.com /focus/keyword?k=contraception (5147 words)

	HPR1.com / Gadfly (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		Only 4 percent of Catholics use Vatican Roulette, the same as the rest of the populace, but the bishops are going to print "an easily understandable booklet" on the subject anyway.
		I really think that the conservatives deep in the constipated bowels of the Vatican actually think that Catholics can outproduce the Muslims in babies if left unfettered by birth control devices.
		It took the Vatican 400 years to admit that Galileo was probably right.
	www.hpr1.com /archives/nov2003/gadfly.htm (1362 words)

	Pregnant pause - Spike - www.smh.com.au
		However, far more revealing has been the ingenious use of language, such as the phrase "Vatican roulette".
		That was how Kathy Donnelly - the mother of Abbott's 27-year-old non love child - described her form of contraception with Abbott during their sexually charged student years in the free loving 1970s to A Current Affair on Tuesday night.
		Since then there has been much debate about what "Vatican roulette" means.
	www.smh.com.au /news/Spike/Pregnant-pause/2005/03/24/1111525233829.html (939 words)

	Theology Today - Vol 29, No. 2 - July 1972 - ARTICLE - Roaming Catholics
		Quite a few things, in fact: Pope John and Vatican II and Women's Lib and Black Power and Campus Unrest.
		I was 29 at the time, my wife 25, and we realized at this rate we could have about twenty children.
		This is sometimes called "Vatican roulette," which means that sooner or later.
	theologytoday.ptsem.edu /jul1972/v29-2-article5.htm (674 words)

	Greenwich Village Gazette: Columns: Gay Today: Jack Nichols
		The Pope could, in a compassionate and civilized fashion, have laid the entire matter to rest by saying, "No, such an idea runs contrary to the kind of God I worship." But such was not the case.
		Fundamentalist Protestants link arms with Vatican policy makers on this issue, not only assuring that there will be no distribution of condoms to sexually overactive teens, but refusing, through their influence on many school boards, the right of teachers to mention condoms in sex education classes.
		County school boards under fundamentalist influences backed the Vatican in the matter just as AIDS was spreading among adolescents.
	www.gvny.com /columns/nichols/nichols07-21-00.html (1152 words)

	The Sydney Morning Herald Blogs: Dissection / How Vatican roulette kills embryos Archives
		Given the Vatican?s long held views on procreation and contraception, it is illogical and even hypocritical that the Vatican would embrace a method of contraception that increases the chance that embryos are aborted, albeit naturally.
		Therefore the Vatican?s policy of using the Rhythm method to prevent pregnancy is bad.
		It is not that i think the vatican is inherently wrong on this issue, they have a right to their beliefs, but i think they have a responsibility to the millions of members of their church to get with the times.
	blogs.smh.com.au /dissection/archives/2006/05/how_vatican_rou.html (16410 words)

	Article Detail - Sort ASC (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		JPII stood against the KGB heroically and with grace; he has made tremendous efforts to speak to the people of each nation he has visited in their own language; he came out strongly against the war in Iraq.
		Although the Vatican doesn't get a vote in such conferences, it does have a sort of honorary seat at them, and it has used its clout as provider of health care in poorer nations to pull the rug from under reproductive rights, access to education on HIV and other STDs, and so on.
		John XXIII was also progressive and was responsible for the "fresh air" of Vatican II, and attempted to bring the church into the 20th century.
	www.witchvox.com /wren/wn_detaila.html?id=7200&offset=10 (1925 words)

	Newsletter of the (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		It’s smoke and mirrors, and I don’t mean the puff of white smoke that signals the elevation of yet another reactionary mortal to a position of high absurdity.
		While the media sprays rosy paint on J P II’s “legacy,” few will have the guts to mention the millions of unwanted pregnancies and cases of AIDS that have occurred because the “Papa” preferred Vatican Roulette for his semi-obedient flock instead of effective family planning methods and condoms for safer sex.
		Back in the 60s, when Einstein said that the pope was a “dangerous person” he was referring to the pope’s refusal to endorse modern contraceptive methods – and AIDS wasn’t even a threat at that time.
	uucfl.org /humanist/newsletter.htm (1114 words)

	Is It Bad To Use A Condom Blog
		My sister is a RC and the priest told her what the official Vatican position was then told her to follow her own convictions.
		The problem with the Vatican view is that it can create unwanted children or children one cannot properly provide for.
		However, during the recent past, the act itself was recognized by the Vatican to have other functions.
	christianblogs.christianet.com /1128638154.htm (2324 words)

	The Fifth Estate (InBrief): Media analysis, commentary and news by RMIT Journalism
		Price refers to the ACA interview with Kathy Donnelly as 'astonishingly frank', in which Connelly talked about her suprise at learning that Abbott is not the biological father of her son, Daniel O'Connor.
		Connelly's detailed explanation of her and Abbott's use of the 'Vatican Roulette' contraceptive method, was the most revealing detail in the interview.
		When it was revealed to the media in February, that Abbott had reunited with, what was reported as his 'son', articles popped up about abortion and adoption ethics in almost every news website.
	fifth.estate.rmit.edu.au /blog/weblog.php?id=P3695 (195 words)

	democracycellproject: The Benedictine Purge Begins
		Investigators appointed by the Vatican have been instructed to review each of the 229 Roman Catholic seminaries in the United States for "evidence of homosexuality" and for faculty members who dissent from church teaching, according to a document prepared to guide the process.
		The Vatican document, given to The New York Times yesterday by a priest, surfaces as Catholics await a Vatican ruling on whether homosexuals should be barred from the priesthood.
		That the Vatican is now attempting to make homosexuals the scapegoat of its sexual abuse scandal – a scandal that also included instances of male clergy molesting women, and outside of the United States, priests molesting nuns – is then predictable, if inexcusable for an allegedly "spirit-based" organization.
	www.democracycellproject.net /blog/archives/2005/09/_the_benedictin_1.html (14745 words)

	Kashin - Band page with free MP3 music downloads on SoundClick
		We both still write IDM, but have been working on a seperate project as well, called Vatican Roulette.
		Vatican Roulette is a hip hop/trip hop project that encorporates urban styles w/ lyrics by Lee Hurley and myself.
		I tend to be more of the trip hop style of things as Lee leans more towards what you would hear playing in the Compton streets.
	www.soundclick.com /bands/pageartist.cfm?bandID=165083 (392 words)

	Dave Melillo - Talk is Cheap EP Review - sputnikmusic
		This is a solid song, and it opens the EP well by introducing you to Dave's style.
		After this comes "Vatican Roulette", which begins with a pretty cool electric drum beat and even features some synthesizer.
		This is another pretty good song, with a more mature topic- something about a party and a mistake that was made after too many drinks.
	www.sputnikmusic.com /album.php?reviewid=6692&ref=mx (1019 words)

	Sailing Close to the Wind » Blog Archive » Selectivity
		Apparently it’s the fault of the Vatican because they have banned contraception.
		In a poignant and at times tearful interview on Channel Nine’s A Current Affair last night, Ms Donnelly said she and Mr Abbott had practiced “Vatican roulette” — coitus interruptus — because he was contemplating becoming a priest.
		She had used contraception with Bill and that was why she immediately thought the baby was Mr Abbott’s.
	www.rowen.id.au /blog/2005/03/selectivity (481 words)

	COLUMN: New pope can appease reformists by supporting complicated food (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		But liberals don’t understand that part of what makes the Catholic Church great is its steadfastness through the ages.
		For example, they complain the Church is out of step with the times, and should endorse contraception instead of having people rely on the old “Vatican Roulette.”
		They want to reopen some of the most basic theological questions, such as whether Martin Luther could take the Pope in a bar fight, no schisms or Popemobiles allowed (I bet Luther would take a dive in the second and try to win on faith alone).
	www.kstatecollegian.com /article.php?a=6079 (543 words)

	The World Today - Abbott: private and public trauma
		But even Tony Abbott may have grimaced on hearing intimate details of his student contraceptive methods being canvassed on primetime television last night.
		Former girlfriend Kathy Donnelly spoke frankly about what she called the "Vatican roulette" employed by her and Mr Abbott and the life changing one-night-stand with her old flatmate, Bill.
		KATHY DONNELLY: We used contraception, whereas Tony and I because we were trying not to be sexual — that was the year Tony was thinking about entering the priesthood — we were playing Vatican roulette.
	www.abc.net.au /worldtoday/content/2005/s1330259.htm (921 words)

	Iskandalo Cafe->Isa Dalawa-Tama Na By Antonio C Abaya (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-09-10)
		It is obvious that hundreds of millions of Roman Catholics worldwide are totally ignoring the Church and the Pope and are listening to their own consciences, as far as birth control and sexual morality are concerned, and are freely using various artificial methods of birth control.
		It is inconceivable (pun intended) that they are abstaining from sex or are playing Vatican Roulette in their bedrooms.
		Their attitude is probably best summed up by an irreverent Village Voice cartoon that we posted in the Erehwon Bookshop bulletin board decades ago.
	www.iskandalo.com /tama_na.html (809 words)

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