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	Venlo Incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		The Venlo Incident in 1939 was a Gestapo-engineered capture of two British SIS agents in the early months of World War II, on November 9, 1939.
		British agents had met supposed German officers who said that they were plotting against Hitler in the town of Venlo, The Netherlands, 8 km from the border of Germany.
		The British had been promised that they were to meet the general who was the leader of the plotters and Best and Stevens took with them Dutch intelligence officer Dirk Klop.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Venlo_Incident (384 words)

	Hotel Venlo
		Venlo is a municipality and a city in the southeastern Netherlands.
		Due to the fact that Venlo had two bridges over the River Meuse (Maas) the city was severely damaged during several bomb raids on those bridges.
		In the english text is says Venlo received cityrights in 1272, I'm prety sure it was in 1343 that Venlo received cityrights.
	www.artistbooking.com /trips/98/hotel-venlo.html (1334 words)

	Radio-station in Gleiwitz
		The incident, which triggered the Second World War could have remained obscure, had it not surfaced during the proceedings of the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg in 1945.
		After the incident, journalists and members of the diplomatic corps were taken to the scene of the incident, where they were presented "proofs" of the "Polish aggression".
		The Venlo incident was to be the excuse for invading the Low Countries.
	info-poland.buffalo.edu /web/history/WWII/1939/Gleiwitz.shtml (1287 words)

	Sigismund Payne Best: The Venlo Incident
		He could, however, come to Venlo, as Germans living near the frontier were still allowed to cross the border to shop in neighbouring towns in Holland.
		For this next encounter, Klop suggested that Venlo would be a better place, as it was close to the frontier and less than five miles away there was a very quiet customs post which was far easier to pass unobserved than that at Dinxperlo.
		Next day we drove straight through to the cafe, though this time Klop made a short stop at Venlo and went to police headquarters where he arranged that an armed guard should be sent to the frontier.
	www.georg-elser-arbeitskreis.de /texts/best-f.htm (5482 words)

	The Avalon Project : Nuremberg Trial Proceedings Vol. 9
		Under the doctrine of reprisal, as we understand it, any act which is claimed to be justified as a reprisal must be related to a specific and continuing violation of international law on the other side.
		The Simovic affair was definitely the final and decisive factor which dispelled the very last scruples which the Fuehrer had in regard to Russia's attitude, and caused him to take preventive measures in that direction under all circumstances.
		Before this Simovic incident it is probable that, although preparations had been undertaken, doubts as to the inevitable necessity of an attack against Soviet Russia might have been pushed into the background.
	www.yale.edu /lawweb/avalon/imt/proc/03-15-46.htm (17443 words)

	Overleg:Venlo-incident - Wikipedia
		My Apologies for the English, I only understand Dutch.
		Is this the same incident Goering did mention at the IMT:
		At first, we had to determine whether the neutrality of Holland and Belgium would, under all circumstances, be assured in case of a conflict and a war in the West.
	nl.wikipedia.org /wiki/Overleg:Venlo-incident (307 words)

	MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Base
		Attack Claimed: No Coordinated: No Description: A petrol bomb was hurled at a mosque in Venlo, by an unidentified perpetrator who was passing by in a car.
		The device landed on the stairs of the mosque where it started a fire.
		The fire was quickly extinguished and none of the ten people at the mosque at the time were injured.
	www.tkb.org /Incident.jsp?incID=13538 (220 words)

	Espionage
		During World War I, MI6 or SIS proved to be very effective, uncovering and exposing a vast German spy ring headed by Gustav Steinhauer and, for the most part, outwitting the military spies throughout the world that were directed by German spymaster Walther Nicolai.
		The organization's image was tarnished in World War II when two of its agents were abducted at Venlo in the Netherlands in 1939 through a clever Abwehr ruse conducted by SD spymaster Walter Schellenberg.
		So embarrassing was the Venlo Incident, as it came to be called, that MI6's covert operations in Nazi-held European countries during World War II were turned over to the newly-created SOE (Special Operations Executive.) MI6 fared better during the Cold War but it saw many setbacks when the KGB outwitted its schemes.
	espionagemi6.homestead.com /espionage.html (698 words)

	General Charles Delestraint - allegedly executed at Dacahu 19 April 1945 (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-30)
		However, Dr. Johannes Neuhäusler, an honor prisoner in the bunker, wrote that General Delestraint was transferred to the bunker "at the beginning of 1945." The bunker was the camp prison which contained private cells where the important prisoners were housed.
		Sheppard wrote that, immediately after this incident, orders were received from Berlin that General Delestraint was to be transferred to the "Herrenbunker," the camp prison, that was reserved for the very important prisoners.
		None of the accounts, written by the former Dachau prisoners, mention that the date of his transfer to the bunker was March 13, 1945, which is the date on the official document that ordered the move from the barracks to the prison where the prominent prisoners were housed.
	www.scrapbookpages.com /DachauScrapbook/GeneralDelestraint.html (8537 words)

	Amazon.com: Betrayal at Venlo: The Secret Story of Appeasement and Treachery, 1939-45: Books: Leo Kessler (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-30)
		Schellenberg, head of the nazi secret services, would be protected and employed by the British SIS after the war.
		Menzies, head of the SIS, after having been fooled in Venlo by this 29 years old boyish nazi, had promoted the soviet spy Kim Philby in a central position in the SIS, together with other soviet spies like Anthony Blunt...
		In this Venlo incident are involved people, who would play very important roles in the war: next to Schellenberg, Canaris, Dansey and Menzies, appear Alfred Naujocks the agent provocateur who after playing a role in Czechoslovakia "started the war"in Gleiwicz, Helmut Knochen who would run the Gestapo in France...
	www.amazon.com /exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0850522005?v=glance (689 words)

	Delta Green - Campaign - Order of Battle - Secret Intelligence Service (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-30)
		With the outbreak of war, SIS attempted to hurriedly integrate the two networks (the PCOs had for the most part been blissfully unaware of the Z network up to this point), with disastrous results.
		The Venlo incident of 1939 saw two senior SIS officers fall into enemy hands and necessitated the closure of the Hague station after agents were compromised in a 'sting' operation conducted by the SD.
		The Section that expanded most rapidly in the early years of the war was Section V, as SIS learnt from the lessons taught them by the Venlo incident that they could no longer expect to passively acquire and interpret intelligence from their agents.
	home.comcast.net /~furrylogic/sis.html (1274 words)

	Alternate History Discussion Board - Nov 1939- no Venlo incident (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-30)
		March 1st, 2004 04:45 AM Nov 1939- no Venlo incident
		This process and the agents' own indiscretion enabled the Germans to acquire an intel goldmine, including finding a list of British operatives in Czechoslovakia which the Gestapo were able to shut down.
		As a result, British intelligence became much less willing thruout the course of the war to trust any purported anti-Nazi conspirators from within the Wehrmacht who claimed to be willing to mount a coup against Hitler.
	www.alternatehistory.com /discussion/printthread.php?t=1592 (159 words)

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		Walter Schellenberg first made a name for himself in his dealings with counterespionage, when he staged a sting operation against British Secret Intelligence (MI-6), sometimes known as the Venlo Incident.
		Instead of sitting down to negotiate a plan in which the German army would overthrow Hitler and make peace with the Western Allies as had been promised, Schellenberg signaled to an automobile full of SS thugs, who appeared on the scene and kidnapped the two British officers.
		Backed by Himmler Schellenberg, next embarked on an end-run around Ribbentrop by creating an alternate foreign policy universe at Himmler's disposal serving as the alternate foreign minister plus peace soundings of this alternate foreign policy universe.
	sociologyesoscience.com /secretsrevealed1.html (493 words)

	TBRNews.org
		When he was a young mechanic at the BMW aircraft engine plant, he kept notes on various engines he worked on, with occasional comments about the progress of the First World War that erupted when he was fourteen years old.
		Once Müller joined the army in 1917 and was assigned to a flying unit, his notes became more personal and began to cover his flights, actions and a host of other incidents that were far more interesting than the day-to-day drudgery of factory work.
		He met his future wife at a Munich bus stop and was careful to note down the time and place of the meeting as well as her address and the fact that her father published a newspaper for the Bavarian People¹s Party (BVP).
	www.tbrnews.org /Archives/a1150.htm (14211 words)

	MI6 - The real meaning from Timesharetalk wikipedia (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-30)
		It was also affected by the inflammatory activities of the Special Operations Executive, which tended to increase the danger to its own agents.
		Its most famous operation of the war was a spectacular failure known as the Venlo incident (after the Dutch town where much of the action took place), in which SIS was thoroughly duped by agents of the German secret service, the Abwehr, posing as high-ranking Army officers involved in a plot to depose Hitler.
		In a series of meetings between SIS agents and the 'conspirators', SS plans to abduct the SIS team were shelved due to the presence of Dutch police.
	www.timesharetalk.co.uk /wiki.asp?k=MI6 (2489 words)

	The Forum of the 1.Jagdmoroner Abteilung - Attack on Holland
		Apart from that, holland was no friednly or even neutral country to Germany - it allowed allied bombers to fly over it`s territory in their sorties against Germany, and the Germans had rather convincing evidence for themselves that the dutch secret service was working together with the brits to overthrow the german goverment (Venlo incident).
		I think this factored as well, but in any case, the Benelux are traditional battleground between frogman and sauerkraut.
		It`s always good to turn other countries into wasteland instead of your own.
	www.1jma.dk /topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4989 (797 words)

	Gestapo (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-30)
		A second major reason was that the opposition's peace feelers to the western Allies did not meet with success.
		This was in part due to the aftermath of the Venlo incident of 1939, when Gestapo agents posing as anti-Nazis in the Netherlands kidnapped two British Secret Intelligence Service officers lured to a meeting to discuss peace terms.
		That prompted Churchill to ban any further contact with the German opposition.
	www.casimiro.com /wiki/en/wikipedia/g/ge/gestapo.html (1734 words)

	History News Network
		They became convinced Hitler was preparing to step down in favour of Goring.
		On 12 November, Liddell gives detail of the 'Venlo' incident when two MI6 officers were kidnapped by the Gestapo on the Dutch border after being duped into a fake coup plot.
		Liddell's diaries show the fear in Britain about German agents and fifth columnists.
	hnn.us /readcomment.php?id=5533 (1201 words)

	NARA - Prologue - Prologue
		Cartwright cannot be completely faulted for thinking Kocherthaler was a plant or agent provocateur.
		The Venlo incident of 1939, when Gestapo agents posing as anti-Nazis in the Netherlands kidnapped two British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) officers lured to a meeting to discuss peace terms, prompted Churchill to ban any further contact with the German opposition.
		The British did not want to deal with anti-Nazis primarily because they were fearful that the Russians would believe they were attempting to make deals behind their backs.
	archives.gov /publications/prologue/2002/spring/fritz-kolbe-2.html?... (3543 words)

	Quote from The Venlo Incident by Captain S. Payne-Best (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-30)
		Quote from The Venlo Incident by Captain S. Payne-Best
		As regards the gas chambers, he said that Himmler, a very kind-hearted man, was most anxious that prisoners should be exterminated in a manner which caused them the least anxiety and suffering.
		(From "The Venlo Incident" by Captain S. Payne Best)
	www.scrapbookpages.com /dachauscrapbook/PayneBest.html (132 words)

	Betrayal at Venlo : The Secret Story of Appeasement and Treachery, 1939-45
		Betrayal at Venlo : The Secret Story of Appeasement and Treachery, 1939-45
		Please click here to view the non-framed version.
		Betrayal at Venlo : The Secret Story of Appeasement and Treachery, 1939-45 by Leo Kessler.
	www.discovermilitaryhistory.com /dmh8/0850522005AMUS251589.shtml (47 words)

	The CODOH Revisionist Forum :: View topic - Dachau
		The ceiling today is 7.6 ft and the fake showerheads are made of sheet metal.
		....in the files of the Hoover Library at Stanford, California, are the papers of British secret service (MI6) agent Captain S. Payne Best, who was captured by the Gestapo with fellow-agent Stevens in the famous Venlo Incident in May 1940.
		Both were held for most of the war in Dachau concentration camp.
	forum.codoh.com /viewtopic.php?t=963 (3439 words)

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