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	Yeshu (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		The name Yeshu is generally believed to be an acronym for the Hebrew expression yemach shemo vezichro, meaning "May his name and memory be obliterated", a term used for those guilty of enticing Jews to idolatry.
		The term "son of Pandera" may therefore be not a patronymic but rather a designation of a class of person, similar to the expression son of Belial.
		The Toledot Yeshu narratives similarly conflate the various anecdotes, and this may be the source for the later common Jewish description of Jesus as Yeshu ben Pandera.
	hallencyclopedia.com /Yeshu (3752 words)

	Yeshu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
		Some argue that there is no relationship between Yeshu and the historical Jesus; some argue that Yeshu refers to the historical Jesus; some argue that Yeshu is a literary devise used by Rabbis to comment on their relationship to and with early Christians.
		In Sanhedrin 107b and Sotah 47a a Yeshu is mentioned as a student of Joshua Ben Perachiah who was sent away for judging a woman by her physical appearance.
		The occurrence of Yeshua instead of Yeshu in certain manuscripts of the Tosefta is accompanied by anomalous spellings of Pandera and based on comparison of texts both are seen as erroneous attempts at correction by a copyist unfamiliar with the terms.
	en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Yeshu (5141 words)

	YESHU FACTS AND INFORMATION (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		Yeshu (ישו in Hebrew) and slight variations such as Jeshu ''(Bible English transliteration)'' or Yeishu ''(Yiddish pronunciation)'', is the name of one or more persons in various works of classical Jewish rabbinic literature, including the Babylonian Talmud (redacted roughly before 600 CE) and the classical midrash literature (written between 200 CE to 700 CE.)
		In ''Sanhedrin 107b'' and ''Sotah 47a'' a Yeshu is mentioned as a student of Joshua_Ben_Perachiah who was sent away for judging a woman by her physical appearance.
		In the 13th_century Jehiel ben Joseph of Paris wrote that the Yeshu in rabbinic literature was a disciple of Joshua ben Perachiah, and not to be confused with Jesus the Nazarene (''Vikkuah Rabbenu Yehiel mi-Paris'').
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	Upto11.net - Wikipedia Article for Yeshu (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		Yeshu (and#1497;and#1513;and#1493; in Hebrew) and slight variations such as Jeshu (Bible English transliteration) or Yeishu (Yiddish pronunciation), is the name of one or more persons in various works of classical Jewish rabbinic literature, including the Babylonian Talmud (redacted roughly before 600 CE) and the classical midrash literature (written between 200 CE to 700 CE.)
		In Sanhedrin 107b and Sotah 47a a Yeshu the Notzri is mentioned as a student of Joshua Ben Perachiah who was sent away for judging a woman by her physical appearance.
		The occurrence of Yeshua instead of Yeshu in certain manuscripts of the Tosefta is accompanied by anomalous spellings of Pandera and both are seen as erroneous attempts at correction by a copyist unfamiliar with the terms.
	www.upto11.net /generic_wiki.php?q=yeshu (4673 words)

	Yeshu - Open Encyclopedia (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		Robert Eisler notes that in the Iliad, Pandaros betrays the Greeks by hurling a lance at Menelaus thus breaking an armistice confirmed by solemn oath, and speculates that his name came to be used in a manner similar to the use of the name Benedict Arnold today.
		It was borrowed by Hebrew in the form Pandera and is also found in Midrash.
		There are significant phonetic difficulties in seeing the epithet son of Pandera as a corruption of parthenos, and this interpretation ignores the understandable Hebrew meaning of "betrayer".
	open-encyclopedia.com /Yeshu (3461 words)

	Sherlock Holmes Style Search For the Historical Jesus
		This young man, Yeshu, was the son of Miriam Stada (thus he was also known as ben Stada)-perhaps because she was not married.
		Jesus is commonly referred to in the Talmud by the expressions "ben Stada" and "ben Pandera," however, in the Jerusalem Talmud (Avodah Zerah II 40d), the full name is given as Yeshu ben Pandera; and in the Tosefta on Hullin II, the full name is given as Yeshu ben Pantera.
		Yeshu began to be known as Hanotzri (the Nazarene) and was a rather charismatic fellow who's demise was by a stoning and then a hanging from a tree (similar to book of acts accounts mentioned earlier).
	www.angelfire.com /ms/coolfreebies/history.html (2283 words)

	Yeshu articles and news from Start Learning Now (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		These are also discussed in the Shulkhan Arukh where the individual called Yeshu in the Talmudic accounts is instead explictly named as Manasseh of JudahManasseh, the king of Judah infamous for having turned to idolatry and having persecuted the Jews.
		The term "son of Pandera" may therefore be not a patronymic but rather a designation of a class of person, similar to the expression Belialson of Belial.
		The argument that Yeshu is the Christian Jesus is based on the observation that the name Yeshu, is similar to Yeshua, which is often believed to be the Aramaic or Hebrew languageHebrew name of Jesus.
	www.startlearningnow.com /Yeshu.htm (5147 words)

	FrostCloud Forums - Christianity Based on a Lie
		Yeshu (Esau), or Yeishu (sometimes called Yeshu Ha-Notzri The Nasoraean) was the name of a notorious Jewish sectarian of the second century BCE (approximately 120-80 BCE) mentioned in the Mishna.
		Yeshu is used as an acronymic curse meaning "May his name be erased" and Ha-Notzri means The Watcher.
		He is not the same person as the second century CE Ben Stada neither is there any basis for the assumption that he may have also been called Ben Pandera.
	www.frostcloud.com /forum/printthread.php?t=4602 (1265 words)

	Yeshu ben Pandera and Miriam (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		Re: Yeshu ben Pandera and Miriam Lou 11:12:09 12/21/97 (
		Re: Yeshu ben Pandera and Miriam Lou 17:26:12 12/23/97 (
		The Talmud apparently also : does not mention Benjamin, Yehuda or Theudas either (false messiahs : mentioned by Josephus), which suggests the possibility that none of : these particular individuals was very important, and weakens further : the credibility of any of the NT writings about any figure called : Jesus.
	www.eliyah.com /forum/messages/3184.html (321 words)

	JESUS IN THE LIGHT OF JEWISH SOURCES
		The TOLDOTH YESHU came into being in the 5th century, at the earliest, and subsequently spread, in Hebrew and Yiddish versions, among the Jewish peasantry.
		The Toldôth Yeshu speaks of how John, a God-fearing man, skilled in the Torah and of the house of David, got engaged to a certain Miriam, originally from Bethlehem, the shy and honourable daughter of a neighbouring widow.
		The main theme of the story is that Yeshu is supposed to have stolen the Shem ha-Mephorash, the name of God "which must not be pronounced", from the Temple's Holiest of Holies, and by its agency to have performed miracles.
	www.kolumbus.fi /hjussila/rsla/Nt/NT05.html (2603 words)

	ipedia.com: Sources about Jesus Christ Article (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		References to Jesus in the Jewish Toledoth Yeshu compiled in the twelfth century but preserving traditions that go back to the 6th century are even less detailed.
		There are traditions about Ben Stada's illegitimate birth and attempts to link him with a certain early first century Ben Pandera (Shabbat 104b, Sanhedrin 64a) whose disciples were healers and respected by Rabbis Eliezer ben Hyrcanus and/aka Eliezer ben Dama.
		The Toledoth Yeshu combines the traditions of these three men whose lives spanned four centuries (from the second century BC to the second century CE) and other characters like the 5th century Rabbi Tanhuma Bar Abba into one satirical and cautionary would-be messiah tale.
	www.ipedia.com /sources_about_jesus_christ.html (1472 words)

	Jesus in the Jewish tradition
		In any case Joshua ben Perachiah and Nithai of Arbela were the second of the famous "Five Pairs" of the "Guruparampara" chain (to use a Brahmanical technical term) of Talmudic tradition, while Simeon ben Shetach and Judah ben Tabbai form the third "Pair."
		Thus; for the enticer two witnesses are placed in concealment in the innermost part of the house; but he is made himself to remain in the exterior part of the house, wherein a lamp is lighted over him, in order that the witnesses may see him and distinguish his voice.
		Not only is she said to have been the sister of a certain Joshua, who is presumably to be identified with Joshua ben Perachiah, but she is also said to have been related to Queen Helene, that is, if our argument holds good, to Queen Salome, whose brother was Simeon ben Shetach.
	ourworld.compuserve.com /homepages/dp5/mead.htm (3672 words)

	Jacob of Kefar (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		Jacob of Kefar Soma or Jacob of Kefar Sakanin, is a character described as a disciple of Yeshu Ben Pandera.
		The editor of the Soncino Talmud believes him to have been either James the less of James son of Alphaeus, but whether this truly is the Mishnah's memory of James the Just whose death is usually dated to 62 CE is a topic of some debate.
		The other mention of Jacob in the Mishnah concerns the death of Rabbi Eliezer ben Dama the nephew of Rabbi Ishmael Ben Elisha whose prominence is dated c.90-135 CE.
	www.worldhistory.com /wiki/J/Jacob-of-Kefar.htm (408 words)

	[No title] (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		In the Baraila: "On the eve of Passover they hanged Yeshu (of Nazareth) and the herald went before him for forty days saying (Yeshu of Nazareth) is going forth to be stoned in that he hath practiced sorcery and beguiled and led astray Israel.
		IV 3; 49a: "R. Shimeon ben Azzai said [concerning Jesus]: 'I found a genealogical roll in Jerusalem wherein was recorded, Such-an-one is a bastard of an adulteress'".
		He said to me, so [Jesus of Nazareth] taught me (Tosefta reads, 'Yeshu ben Pantere'): 'For of the hire of a harlot hath she gathered them, and unto the hire of a harlot shall they return'; from the place of filth they come, and until the place of filth they shall go.
	geneva.rutgers.edu /src/faq/x-outof-nt.txt (2632 words)

	Re: Yeshu ben Pandera and Miriam (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		In Reply to: Re: Yeshu ben Pandera and Miriam posted by Lou on December 21, 1997 at 11:12:09:
		They are never scared of controversy, and a proof is their mention of the infamous Yeshu Hanotzri who was not the Jesus cited in the NT.
		The Talmud apparently also does not mention Benjamin, Yehuda or Theudas either (false messiahs : : mentioned by Josephus), which suggests the possibility that none of these particular individuals was very important, and weakens further the credibility of any of the NT writings about any figure called Jesus.
	www.eliyah.com /forum/messages/3217.html (650 words)

	Re: Yeshu ben Pandera and Miriam (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		In Reply to: Yeshu ben Pandera and Miriam posted by David Goldman on December 21, 1997 at 10:34:55:
		The fact that Josephus doesn't even mention the NT Jesus strengthens the idea that the writers of the Christian scriptures were putting together sectarian messianic ORAL traditions which the various writers thought referred to one individual, perhaps in the context of the traditions about the earlier well-known personages, Yeshu haNotzri ben Pandera and ben Stada.
		The Talmud apparently also does not mention Benjamin, Yehuda or Theudas either (false messiahs : mentioned by Josephus), which suggests the possibility that none of these particular individuals was very important, and weakens further the credibility of any of the NT writings about any figure called Jesus.
	www.eliyah.com /forum/messages/3185.html (570 words)

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		It charges that Christ %28Who is called Ben Pandera%29 was born out of wedlock after His mother had been seduced by a Roman soldier named Pandera or Panthera.
		Respected scholar Bruce Metzger has commented upon this appellation%3A %22The defamatory account of his birth seems to reflect a knowledge of the Christian tradition that Jesus was the son of the virgin Mary%2C the Greek word for virgin%2C parthenos%2C being distorted into the name Pandera%22 %281965%2C p.
		As the evidence above indicates Yeshu Ben Panderia was hanged on a tree%2C which is a euphemism for crucifiction %28see Raymond Brown%2C %5Bi%5DDeath of the Messiah%5B%2Fi%5D%29.
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	Chabad_7A
		Yeshu Ben Pandera, and all information that mentions him are based on the Tosefta and the Baraitas, writings made at the same time as the Mishna.
		Yeshu was a sorcerer and they considered him to be the individual who led the Jews astray.
		Yeshu who was hanged on the eve of Passover (Sanhedrin 43a) is also called ben Stada (Sanhedrin 67a).
	www.samliquidation.com /chabad_7a.htm (15832 words)

	The world's top toledoth yeshu websites
		There are attempts to link him with a certain early first century Ben Pandera (Shabbat 104b, Sanhedrin 64a) whose disciples were healers and respected by Rabbis Eliezer ben Hyrcanus and/aka Eliezer ben Dama.
		The currency around 180 of traditions about Ben Stada's illegitimate descent from the Pandera family (to which the sons of James Joseph and Clopas and their offspring belonged according to Epiphanius), is corroborated by the anti-Christian polemic philosopher, Celsus, who reported hearing the story from an anonymous Jew.
		The word "panther" was also used as a metaphor for unbridled sexual desire (according to who?), so this could have begun as an allegation that Yeshu was born out of wedlock because of his mother's sexual waywardness.
	dirs.org /wiki-article-tab.cfm/toledoth_yeshu (352 words)

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		Jesus is referred to as "Ben Pandera." Babylonian Talmud.
		Many scholars say "pandera" is a play on words, a travesty on the Greek word for virgin "parthenos," calling him a "son of a virgin."
		He said to me, so [Jesus of Nazareth] taught me (Tosefta reads,'Yeshu ben Pantere'):'For of the hire of a harlot hath she gathered them, and unto the hire of a harlot shall they return'; from the place of filth they come, and unto the place of filth they shall go.
	www.mosquitonet.com /~prewett/historicalchrist.html (2663 words)

	Rabbis on Is53
		The Messih ben Joseph (aka ben Ephriam) is a figure who comes during the war with Gog and Magog at the end of times.
		Their sheer number alone argues agianst it, since the odds are not strong that that many people who chose the symbol of suffering Messiah as figurative association for any number of Biblical points if it didn't have some basis in doctrine.
		Rabbi Naphtali ben Asher Altschuler wrote that he was expectantly waiting for the Messiah to come during his lifetime and he continued to write that he was amazed Rashi and Rabbi David Kimchi did not interpret this passage to refer to the Messiah just as the Targums had.
	www.geocities.com /metagetics/rabbis_on_is53.htm (11227 words)

	Jesus Outside the New Testament (Site not responding. Last check: 2007-10-08)
		The name Pandera, Pantera or Panthera "is an unusual one, and was thought to be an invention until [a] first century tombstone came to light in Bingerbrück, Germany.
		The Toldot Yeshu or Genealogy of Jesus, "told of a virgin named Miriam, espoused to a man named Yohannan, who was virtually raped by a carpenter, one Yowself ben Pandera, who entered her bed after dark in the guise of her husband.
		Yeshu was hunted by the agent of all that is good, Yahuwdah (Judas), captured through Yahuwdah's efforts (Yahuwdah had also been taught the unspeakable name, and pronounced it against Yeshu), and hanged on a tree.
	www.mystae.com /restricted/reflections/messiah/sources.html (7484 words)

	histJesus2.htm
		40d), the full name is given as Yeshu ben Pandera (for which Shabbath XIV 14d has more briefly, Yeshu Pandera); and in the Tosephta on Hullin II, the full name is given as Yeshu ben Pantera and Yeshu ben Pantere.
		While these sources are written much latter than the first century (Sanhedrin from second century to fourth) it is generally understood that they draw upon material that is much older, some of it perhaps form the first century, some even contemporary with Jesus.
		It charges that Christ (Who is called Ben Pandera) was born out of wedlock after His mother had been seduced by a Roman soldier named Pandera or Panthera.
	www.geocities.com /metagetics/HistoricalJesus2.html (3993 words)

	Chapter 9: The Harlot Church
		The historical Mary was termed 'Stada' meaning 'she deviated', a term labeled on her when she had Yeshu through a fling with a Roman soldier named Pandera, as accounted by Celsus, Origen, and Epiphanius.
		Which is why Yeshu was called both Yeshu Ben Pandera and Yeshu Ben Stada.
		This fishy portion of the Jesus character was not of the Notzrim sect which Yeshu was part of, nor was he legitimately a Nazarite, because he taught in the town of Capernaum - John 6:17,24,59, Mark 1:21, 2:1, Luke 4:31, 7:1, Matthew 4:13,8:5,17:24.
	hashev.freewebpage.org /9.html (2871 words)

	Socrates versus Moses and Christ - Summer 1997
		He did this under cover of darkness, when the innocent Mariam, believing the wooer to be her husband, gladly surrendered.
		Mariam gave birth to a son and called him Yehoshua, corrupted to Yeshu, which in Greek was Jesus.
		Ben Stada, the false messiah in Egypt who promised to throw down the walls of the holy city?
	www.americanatheist.org /smr97/T2/azazel.html (1895 words)

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